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401k entry dates

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#1 kdzurinda


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Posted 23 February 2006 - 07:51 PM

A client has decided to implement a 401k and safe harbor nonelective contribution. They want to have a 21 age and 1 year service requirement with an annual entry date of 4-1. (they are a fiscal plan) My question is can they do this or must they use semi-annual entry dates? Essentially, if someone hires in April, they have to wait almost 2 years in order to be eligible.

Please advise asap.


#2 rcline46


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Posted 23 February 2006 - 08:07 PM

You should know this one cold! You cannot keep someone out for more than 18 months. This directs the use of dual entry dates as the most restrictive.

#3 Dan


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Posted 24 February 2006 - 12:43 PM

Actually, you can require 2 years of service for entry as long as all employer accounts are fully vested upon participation.

If the plan isn't designed for two years of service, then the annual date is fine as long as the entry date is retroactive so no participants exceed the 18 months.

#4 Tom Poje

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 12:52 PM

you could have 2 years, but not for 401(k) deferrals. that would also mean you could not have a 2 year wait in a safe harbor 401k
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#5 Lori Friedman

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 04:11 PM

A plan can have just one entry date per year, but that would be a bad design choice with unanticipated results. Employees can begin participating in the plan before they've met the age/service requirement.

Example. A plan has one entry date per year -- January 1. A new employee completes his first year of service on 03/01/06. The individual can't be kept out of the plan until 01/01/07 (the "waiting" period can't exceed 6 months), so he'd participate as of 01/01/06. That's why plans are designed with a minimum of 2 entry dates per year. If this same plan had provided entry dates on January 1 and July 1, the employee would have started participating on 07/01/06.
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#6 PMC


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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:20 AM

Look at IRC 410(a)(4)

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:41 AM

If you have a service requirement together with annual start dates, you generally have to provide retro entry to the beginning of the year for those who satisfy requirement during first half of year. Doesn't work with a 401(k) plan.

Edited by E as in ERISA, 27 February 2006 - 12:23 PM.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:14 PM

401k2D states that plan cannot require as a condition of participation (not eligibility to particiate) that an employee complete more than 1 year of service which requires allowing the employee to make salary reduction contributions after performing a year of service.