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lindamichals
2004 rec'ble for a ps plan was $29,067.99. Client makes a deposit 4/28/05 of $30,000 anticipating a contribution in 2005. Medical practice not doing well, does not want to make any contribution, Oh, the plan is top heavy!

Client's accountant says to pay out the difference of $932.01 to us as TPA for our services. (He shows $29,067.99 as the deduction in 2004) I'm trying to convince the client this is not correct(or is it?) since she clearly made a one time deposit of $30,000 and intended it all to be contributions and contributions cannot be re-characterized.

Any references in the code that I can send to the accountant? Thanks.

Linda Michals
Archimage
I personally would recommend that the 932.01 be re-characterized as a 2005 contribution. The 2004 contribution is completely discretionary.
ronald mexico
12/31 pye? 3/15 is deadline to make contrib and take deduction for 2004. did they file for extension on corp return?
i agree with archimage. the excess is 2005 contrib. does plan doc allow plan to pay expenses?
isn't it hard to argue mistake of fact and w-d money from qual plan?
E as in ERISA
Was there in fact any documentation that actually characterized it as such? I'm assuming no resolution in re to it being a contribuiton? No communication to participants? And it wasn't allocated? So it was just extra dollars put into a cash suspense account with the intent that at a LATER date it would be characterized as a contribution? So, if before that happens, they decide to characterize it as reimbursement of expenses instead (and plan allows that), what's the problem?
ronald mexico
some plans will "pre fund" during the year to a pooled fund(p/s plan that is trustee directed)--not suspense or cash acct-- and after the close of the yr the tpa will allocate it among the ee's. jsut b/c it is not allocated when deposited doesn't mean it isn't a contribution to the plan.
E as in ERISA
My point is that simply rounding up the contribution and over-depositing it -- with the idea in mind that it can be used later as a contribution -- does not by itself require the rounding to be characterized as a contribution. It's only if you add other facts -- e.g., a resolution, deposit in something other than some sort of general suspense account, communicate to employees, allocation -- that will cement that conclusion.
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