K-t-F Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Who has? Is it a good idea? Necessity? Where to get it? Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vebaguru Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Everyone. Yes. http://benefitslink.com/yellowpages/errors.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 E&O (Professional Liability) Insurance should be very inadequate and inappropriate for any TPA, Administrative service provider etc. Your needs would be much better served with Fiduciary Liability Insurance. Loook at the BenefitsLink Q&A section on Fiduciary Liability Insurance and do a Google search for explanations of the differences etc. George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-t-F Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Thanks.... I will do a search. Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pensions in Paradise Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 GBurns - why do you think E&O insurance is inappropriate for a TPA? And how could fiduciary liability insurance possibly be appropriate for a TPA? Unless they take on additional duties, a TPA by nature is not a fiduciary of a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgarath Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I will leave the question of Fiduciary vs. E&O to the legal experts - which type of ins. is appropriate in all or specific situations is not my bailiwick. Purely for informational purposes - we've had clients audited by the DOL in the past, and a couple of them have paid penalties for fiduciary breach. In all cases, however, the DOL has looked at our legal agreements with clients, and the facts and circumstances of each case, and they have immediately determined that we are in no way a fiduciary or operating in any fiduciary capacity. We're very careful to avoid any fiduciary actions. Can someone argue that we are acting as fiduciaries? Sure - you can bring suit and argue anything. If the fiduciary liability insurance isn't too expensive (and if the ins. companies will even issue it to someone who is not a fiduciary?) maybe it would be a worthwhile safety net. Have any of you (TPA's) ever had to pay up because you have been found to be operating in a fiduciary capacity? I'm under the impression that fiduciary liability insurance costs are skyrocketing - so it might be a pretty expensive safety net? And would you have to purchase this coverage for each plan, or is there "blanket" fiduciary coverage for TPA's that would cover all plans you administer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Happy Actuary Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 We have E&O with a reasonably hi deductible. We change carriers from time to time to get the best deal. We've had the coverage for 17 years and fortunately no claims. I think it w/b foolish to not have it. I agree that fiduciary ins. w/b a good "safety net", but I think you'll find it very expensive. IMO, the better result is to carefully conduct yourself at all times so that you are not quacking like a fiduciary. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Pesions in Paradise I am not a lawyer so Rather than attempting a lengthy discourse I suggest that you do a Google search to get expert opinions on which coverage is more appropriate and when/why etc. The Q&A has a section that discussed many of the issues: http://benefitslink.com/modperl/qa.cgi?db=...ional_liability George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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