Archimage Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Are VEBAs required to have fidelity bonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Shouldn't it be the Trustees instead? George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimage Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 I apologize if I confused you. I did not mean the trustees only. My question meant to include all fiduciaries associated with the VEBA. I would assume the same rules apply to VEBAs as they do 401(a) plans but I do not know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Fidelity bonds are more geared towards covering employee dishonesty so Fiduciary Liability insurance might be more appropriate for fiduciaries and D&O (I think there is also Trustee Liability coverage) for Trustees. So the VEBA buys Fiduciary Liability to ptotect itself from the Trustees and others, but it makes the Trustees buy Trustee Liability and the Administrators buy Fiduciary Liability. I do not think anything is required unless the by laws say so, but prudence dictates that you get insurance. You might want to get the differences from a good agent. Maybe 1 of our members with exposure to this issue will post. George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Maldonado Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 The bonding requirements for plans are contained in ERISA Section 412 and the regulations under that provision. Kirk Maldonado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimage Posted January 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Since I am very unfamiliar with VEBAs, let me ask this question in a different manner since I cannot get a straight answer. Is a VEBA a qualified plan under ERISA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 The VEBA is not a qualified plan, it is the plan that provides the underlying benefits that qualifies as either an "employee welfare benefit plan", a "welfare plan" or a "pension plan" etc. The VEBA ( a Trust) is generally just the medium used to secure the payments and continuity of the underlying benefits. George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vebaguru Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Fiduciaries of all ERISA trusts are required to be bonded. This is not related to whether or not the plan or the trust is "qualified" under a section of the Internal Revenue Code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimage Posted January 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 That is what I am trying to find out. Is a VEBA an ERISA trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Friedman Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 In general, Title I of ERISA applies to VEBAs. A VEBA is an employee welfare benefit plan that meets all of the statutory and regulatory requirements of I.R.C. Sec. 501©(9). ERISA's reporting and disclosure requirements, participation and vesting rules, minimum funding standards, and enforcement provisions affect VEBAs to varying degrees. Lori Friedman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 From what vebaguru says, it does not matter whether it is an ERISA trust or not, See his posts. George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Maldonado Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Lori Friedman: As was stated above, a VEBA isn't a plan, it is a funding vehicle. It is no more of a plan than a trust agreement is a plan. Kirk Maldonado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Friedman Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Kirk, your clarification is noted. A VEBA is an I.R.C. Sec. 501©(9) exempt organization that accumulates resources for the payment of certain welfare benefits. As a tax-exempt organization, a VEBA is subject to the Form 990 filing rules. A VEBA isn't necessarily a trust. VEBAs are often formed as corporations or unincorporated associations. Because a VEBA may be subject to unrelated business income taxation on its non-exempt function income, it can be advantageous to use a form of entity other than a trust. Income is taxed at the corporate rates if the VEBA exists as a corporation or association, but at the higher trust rates in the case of a trust. Lori Friedman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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