benpat3 Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 A plan sends out monthly benefit statements to participants and retirees. Every time the plan does a mass mailing they receive hundreds of envelops returned as undeliverable or "return to sender" with no forwarding address. The plan continues to mail mailings to the old addresses, what is the process/requirements that would enable the plan to stop mailing to that particular address? After some many attempts or years can the plan just stop mailing to the bad address and keep the statement in the members file rather than waste the postage to send to an address the plan now knows is wrong? thanks. Benjamin Smith Senior Manager - Indirect Tax Ernst & Young 317.681.7495 Benjamin.Smith@ey.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetM Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Set up a policy and follow it. If we get something returned we mark it bad address and nothing else is mailed to that address. At that point they are added to missing list and our AA has access to two people finder databases to find new address. We keep plugging away until we find them and move them back to mailing list. You say monthly mailing? Are you talking about retirees getting the advice that tells them what the direct deposit was? JanetM CPA, MBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDIK Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 The plan continues to mail mailings to the old addresses "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein I recommend following JanetM's advice. ...but then again, What Do I Know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBurns Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Have you considered that you might have wrong addresses ? This could be caused by many things and anything including a software glitch. Have you used the "Address Correction" and/or Forwarding services ? JanetM's advice is good. George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpat3 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Set up a policy and follow it. If we get something returned we mark it bad address and nothing else is mailed to that address. At that point they are added to missing list and our AA has access to two people finder databases to find new address. We keep plugging away until we find them and move them back to mailing list.You say monthly mailing? Are you talking about retirees getting the advice that tells them what the direct deposit was? How complete of a search r to what lenghts do you go to locate missing addresses? How often do you search? thanks Benjamin Smith Senior Manager - Indirect Tax Ernst & Young 317.681.7495 Benjamin.Smith@ey.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetM Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 When anyone shows up with bad address we serch immediately. First a quick check - if person is recent termination from company we call the location they worked at and ask local HR to see if friends/family know where they moved. We quickly solve many bad addresses that way - we get friend/family to ask them to call us and give us updated address. If we don't find them on the inital search we add them to the the list and search for them on about quarterly basis. The data bases we use also will give family members and other information. We have sometimes sent letters to children and parents asking them to have the participant call us. We don't do a specific number and stop looking. We do cut the search for them to annual if we haven't found them in five years. JanetM CPA, MBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kabert Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 The DOL has issued detailed guidance about finding lost participants. Also, there are participant-search companies out there that do an excellent job locating people and they do so very quickly and for a low charge (that can be paid for out of plan assets). The more participants you send them, the cheaper their per-participant finders fee. Typical is about $9/person. But, if you have 500 people to find, the charge may be just $5/person. These companies can also do a "death audit" to find out whether any have died. By the way, I don't use the generic people search firms; instead, I use the ones that are employee benefits-focused. There's one called, I think, Pension Benefit Information or Pension Benefit Services, that I've used many times. Time to stop the madness and get some help finding these people! I hope none are age 65+ (or worse, 70-1/2), so they should have commenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benji Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Please reference this link with the usps: http://www.usps.com/ncsc/addressservices/m...angeaddress.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCK Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 We have had inconsistent results using the USPS' NCOA service. We recently got a bunch of incorrect death confirms from NCOA. Hundreds of active employees were reported to us as deceased. We did have a big list to start with, but still enough to give us pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Yes, we were very careful when sending out letters to those reported on that report as deceased. It appeared that some of the oldest participants'/pensioners' spouses did not have a unique SSN, so when they died, they got on the deceased report file as the pensioner instead of as their spouse (and vice-versa for survivors of pensioners). However, that report was also valuable in its ability to catch a long-deceased pensioner whose life annuity was still being paid. First-time users of the report are often amazed to find that type of fraud, but it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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