jpod Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Can you have a SEP with alternative eligibilty requirements? For example, an employee is eligible to participate if EITHER - (a) the employee has performed services for the employer in 3 out of the preceding 5 years, OR (b) the employee is hired on a full time basis (40 hours per week), other than on a temporary basis. Alternative (a) satisfies 408(k). Does alternative (b) cause a problem? The goal is to exclude interns and other temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETA Consulting LLC Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 No. A SEP is a cookie-cutter arrangement; void of that level of flexibility. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpod Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 ERISAtoolkit: My question is, if your eligibility rule satisfies the 3-out-of-5 rule, can you have an enhanced alternative eligibility rule? Do you have a citation for your "cookie-cutter" answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PensionPro Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 You can have less restrictive eligibility requirements than the 3-of-5 so you should be fine. But you can not exclude employees who have worked 3-of-5. PensionPro, CPC, TGPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masteff Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Agree w/ PensionPro, because of the word "OR", it will occur no later than required by statute. Note that 408(k)(2)(B) uses the qualifier "at least". Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpod Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I have another question for an individiully-designed SEP. Can you use ANY 414(s) definition of compensation for purposes of allocating contributions? Specifically, can you use a definition that excludes bonuses provided that the 414(s) nondiscrimination test is satisfied? While 408(k)(3) has the words "total compensation" in its title, I think that's just a legislative drafting typo because the text of (k)(3) was revised in 1988 to remove the word "total" and 408(k)(7) defines "compensation" to mean a 414(s) definition. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masteff Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 408(k)(7) starts w/ the statment "For purposes of this subsection and subsection (l)". So the definition of comp in 408(k)(7)(B) (i.e. 414(s)) is what I would use. I wouldn't over construe "total compensation" in (k)(3)© because that term is used in the header of the paragraph and occurs nowhere else in Section 408. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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