K-t-F Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 My question has to do with the the fact that the 5304 states..."Not for Use With a Designated Financial Institution" Ahhh.. what is a "Financial Institution" ?? Is the Financial Institution a specific family of funds like American or Vanguard? Or is the Financial Institution the firm that the financial advisor works for? I take it to be the financial advisor's firm... but I want to be spot on correct!! How do others interpret that statement? Im leaning toward telling this FA to use 5305-SIMPLE Thanks Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDROphile Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 5304 provides that the individuals choose their own IRA providers. The employer does not designate the provider, as under 5305. Many financial institutions do not have a product that supports a 5304 so it can be tough on individuals to find an IRA to go with the SIMPLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-t-F Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Are you saying that when a 5304 is used the plan sponsor says to each eligible participant that they are on their own to find a financial institution who will setup the SIMPLE IRA account for them self to receive their contributions? At the bottom of page 2 of the 5305 is where the financial institution is listed. The financial institution listed agrees to be responsible for accepting the contributions from the plan sponsor and depositing them into the appropriate participant account. I see that as the FA's firm. Agree? Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The Financial Institution is the ultimate recipient of the money (typically a fund family like Vanguard or American Funds). It's not the broker-dealer firm. Ed Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDROphile Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Agree with Bird plus the employer sends the funds to the participant's IRA. The participant never touches the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-t-F Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Ok.. so... Participant defers $500 Employer sends the money to the FA FA deposits it into the participant's IRA. FA uses custodian XYZ to clear for the FA's firm. I guess I would put the XYZ custodian... right? Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDROphile Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Are you married to the FA or something? The FA does not touch any funds unless the FA is a custodian and there is no reason for that. The money goes from the employer's payroll to the IRA that is set up and designated by the employee to the employer. Under a 5305, the employer chooses an IRA provider, sets up the IRAs for each eligible employee with the provider, and the deferred amounts are sent to the provider with instructions about the amounts to be credited to the various employees' IRAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-t-F Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Not married to the FA at all... just want to make sure I use the correct form. I understand the FA doesn't touch the money. Money will be sent to the custodian and then allocated/deposited into each participant's account directly. Not passing through anything. The FA will guide each participant individually with investment advice... nothing more. The plan sponsor will require that each participant IRA must be opened through 1 specific custodian therefore a form 5305 will be used. The custodian accepts the IRS form which makes it all good. Its not easy being green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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