JRG Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 We have an employer who wants to pool fund an HRA for select services, i.e., they are putting in $20,000 for their employees to pay for seeing a nurse practitioner on a first-come, first serve basis. If the $20,000 gets used up by June and some employees have not taken advantage of it then they would not receive a reimbursement for seeing a nurse practitioner later in the year. It is available to all employees. Has anyone seen this kind of arrangement before? I think there would be some nondiscrimination issues if many HCEs used a lot of the benefits early, but I can't determine if this runs afoul of those rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 That sounds like a group health plan subject to an annual limit and one that is not integrated with the employer's major medical plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvena Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Chaz is correct. I would question the effectiveness of this program. The idea that someone would visit a nurse practitioner for a well visit strikes me as a win for the NP (income)and a lose for the employee. What would the NP do, a check-up? To what end? The chance of finding something is very slim. Seems to me that if the employer wanted to provide something of value, this would not be the way to go. Perhaps he should consider another benefit, such as dental, life, DI, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Thanks, A forgot to state this but to be eligible for the HRA benefits an employees does have to be enrolled in the employer's health coverage. Would that change your thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvena Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Should not because it appears that the HRA you are considering is a stand-alone and not integrated into the health plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gulia Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Without otherwise commenting on the wisdom of the described plan design, the employer and its employee-benefits lawyer should read section 18001 [pages 306-312] of the 21st Century Cures Act. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevena Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Without otherwise commenting on the wisdom of the described plan design, the employer and its employee-benefits lawyer should read section 18001 [pages 306-312] of the 21st Century Cures Act. What am I missing? The act allows for hra if the group meets the following; 1) group is under 50/not subject to ACA, and 2) does not offer health insurance to any of its employees. JRG's 2nd post indicates a group health plan is offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gulia Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sorry if I confused anyone. I didn't read all the facts carefully enough, and missed that the employer maintains a group health plan beyond the reimbursement arrangement. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevena Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 Sorry if I confused anyone. I didn't read all the facts carefully enough, and missed that the employer maintains a group health plan beyond the reimbursement arrangement. Thanks for the reply. I was starting to worry I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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