Guest Steve Hample Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 How does one handle the 3% (or 2%) matching employer contribution in the case of a sole proprietor? Is it a circular logic, Catch 22 situation? Assume a professor made $10,000 in his sole proprietor summer consulting business, properly established a SIMPLE, contributed a $6,000 salary deferral and now is reminded of the 3% employer match. Does he use 3% of $10,000 and then go back and enter $300 on line 19 of schedule C as an employer/company retirement plan expense which then makes his profit only $9,700 so he goes back and recalulates 3% of $9,700, etc. etc.... ad infinitum? If so, it resembles the same circular logic for the 15% SEP limit for sole proprietors which gives rise to an infinite series of calculations with the ultimate converging series result of 13.04% or some such number which I once computed years ago for verification. Has the IRS published a similar number to use in this example (something like 2.91%) or is my logic totally off base? P.s. Sole propietors often focus on the $6,000 contribution and sometimes forget to make the 3% or 2% match for themselves. Strikes me this is something a computer program might flag for audit. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lynne Dennis Posted January 4, 2000 Report Share Posted January 4, 2000 I will be very interested, too, in the reply to this question. I have been told by IRS that they don't think I can make a matching contribution as a sole proprietor to my own SIMPLE-IRA. My plan manager (Fidelity) told me I could and that it should go on the same line of the 1040 as the $6,000, i.e., increasing it to 6,000 + 3% of my net profit from Schedule C. Actually, neither of these responses seemed logical to me, and my TaxCut sofrware would not allow me to follow Fidelity's advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lesser Posted January 13, 2000 Report Share Posted January 13, 2000 My answer: $10,000 times .9325 (IRC 1402(a)(11) = $9,235 which equals maximimum compenstion fom which the $6,000 can be deferred. $9,235.00 times 3% equals $277.05 (matching based on pre-plan $10,000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Hample Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 Update: Turbo Tax for Home & Office software suggests that one can use the 3% match either as an adjustment on the same line with the $6,000 OR as a business expense. Which indicates to me that the Turbo tax authors also could not get a definitive answer, at least before the software had to be released. I like Gary's thoughts above. Yet there is still the infinite series question. Perhaps in his example one should not use 3% at the end but rather 2.608% following the 13.04% compared to 15% on the SEP self employed calculation. For most of my clients the dollars are small, but it would be nice to have IRS clarification now rather than be criticized later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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