Gentleman142 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I have a 401k with 350k. I am 61 and want to start withdrawing every month. Is there a calculator to use? What percent of the balance am I able to withdraw every month and still have a balance in 25 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. B. Zeller Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's impossible to know, because it will depend heavily on the interest rate. If your account is gaining 5% a year it would be very different than if it were gaining 2% a year. One thing you could do, if you know you want to take a withdrawal every month for exactly 25 years, that means you will have 12 x 25 = 300 total withdrawals. In the first month, take 1/300th of the account, in the second month, take 1/299th of the remaining account, and so on. The amount of the withdrawal will fluctuate with the gains or losses in the account each month but it will be approximately level. Another option is to look into using your account balance to purchase an annuity. Gentleman142, hr for me and Luke Bailey 3 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMER ESQ. Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 To add to the above (and state the obvious), make sure that your 401(k) plan allows for installment payments that you describe and that you are eligible to begin receiving distributions from the plan. hr for me and Gentleman142 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMER ESQ. Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, FORMER ESQ. said: To add to the above (and state the obvious), make sure that your 401(k) plan allows for installment payments that you describe and that you are eligible to begin receiving distributions from the plan. Sorry, did not see that you are 61 years old. Just make sure your plan allows for installments. Gentleman142 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDROphile Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Also, the plan may have a formula for providing installments and might not allow whatever schedule you would devise. Gentleman142 and hr for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I agree with previous comments. I'd add that most, just about all, people in this situation would roll the money to an IRA and then take distributions from the IRA; generally much easier. As noted, the 401(k) might have restrictions on payouts and also might charge a fee each time. Honestly, it's a very complicated discussion without simple answers; well beyond the scope of this forum. Investment options and fees, direct and indirect, are all critical (within the plan vs. within the IRA and to get into the IRA). Gentleman142 and hr for me 2 Ed Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman142 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 This will be a QDRO distribution. So it would be better to open an IRA and have the funds moved into that account instead of my 401K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Presson Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Gentleman142 said: This will be a QDRO distribution. So it would be better to open an IRA and have the funds moved into that account instead of my 401K? If it's a QDRO, you have to do whatever the QDRO says, so that might limit the choices. If you are the alternate payee, many times you can just take a complete distribution and set up your own payment schedule. But if the QDRO awarded you installment payments, that's what you'll likely have to do. Too many variables for advice here, I think. Gentleman142 and hr for me 2 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman142 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 I am receiving a lump sum from a TSP if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMER ESQ. Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gentleman142 said: This will be a QDRO distribution. So it would be better to open an IRA and have the funds moved into that account instead of my 401K? That was an important detail you left out. As Bill Presson stated, you will likely have to do what the QDRO says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david rigby Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Gentleman142 said: I am receiving a lump sum from a TSP if that helps. Not sure what "TSP" means. If it refers to a government-sponsored plan, note that QDRO specs apply only to the extent that the plan itself adopts such provisions, or recognizes the process (perhaps referring to a "court order" rather than "QDRO"). I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Bailey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 9 hours ago, david rigby said: Not sure what "TSP" means. Federal gov't Thrift Savings Plan, most likely, david rigby. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It would make sense to talk with a financial planner about your distribution options. There will be a cost, but you should have some comfort in speaking with someone who can help you get started on the right track. the cost would be far less than making decisions that in hind-sight were bad ones and could have been avoided. Don't talk with someone who will advise for free and/or wants to sell something to you. Go to a fee-only financial planner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 15 hours ago, Dan said: Don't talk with someone who will advise for free and/or wants to sell something to you. Go to a fee-only financial planner. There are fee-only advisors who charge too much and commission-based advisors who will do a good job and not "charge" (receive) too much. Granted, it is tough for a layperson to know what is "reasonable" and what is "too much" but I don't subscribe to the mantra that fee-only is always better. It's not unfair to ask exactly how much either party is charging and/or receiving. Luke Bailey and Mike Preston 2 Ed Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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