BG5150 Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 Nonelecting Church plan offers a match. Does that make them subject to Title I now? And do they have to file 5500s? Fact pattern: Nonelecting church plan, never sent written statement to be covered under ERISA. But they have been filing 5500s (for whatever reason). We took it over, and told them they might not have to file. But they said they did because they offer a match. Is that true for Church plans (as opposed to a "regular" non-ERISA 403(b) Plan)? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lois Baker Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 This article (included in yesterday's Retirement Plans newsletter) might be of help: https://retirementlc.com/what-makes-a-plan-an-electing-church-plan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG5150 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 I just saw that this morning. It's what prompted my inquiry. So, unlike a "regular" 403(b) that makes a match and is thus subject to ERISA and its reporting requirements, if it's a Church Plan that is making the match, they still must overtly elect to be covered and then, and only then, file a 5500? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgarath Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 Yup. At least, that's always been my understanding, and I've seen many sources confirm this over the years. (Sooo many years...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG5150 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 Thanks. That is what my understanding is, too. Church Plans have their own lane on the 403(b) highway. Bill Presson 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 No, they do not have to file a 5500. And the past error of filing a 5500 does not make a church plan an electing church plan (which would be covered by ERISA). A Church plan has to file a formal election (a "410(d) election") to become ERISA. It cannot "accidently" become ERISA. Church plan status is statutory. Non-Electing (Non-ERISA) Church plans have very little in common with other Non-ERISA 403(b) plans. The idea that a match affects this is a mistaken confusion of the church plan 403(b) rules with the rules applicable to Non-ERISA plans sponsored by 501(c)(3) NonProfits. If this church has not filed a 410(d) election, it is not ERISA and they do not file 5500's. No matter who is in the plan, what the eligibility rules are or whether or not employer contributions are made. Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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