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How to find out if TIN was deactivated


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Per the IRS:

The IRS cannot cancel your EIN. Once an EIN has been assigned to a business entity, it becomes the permanent Federal taxpayer identification number for that entity. Regardless of whether the EIN is ever used to file Federal tax returns, the EIN is never reused or reassigned to another business entity. The EIN will still belong to the business entity and can be used at a later date, should the need arise.

You (well, actually the plan sponsor) can always call the IRS to inquire that the EIN is still active: (800) 829-4933.

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14 hours ago, ESOPMomma said:

The IRS cannot cancel your EIN.

But they can and will deactivate it.  Calling that number is not as hopeless as you might think.  If it has been deactivate, there is a procedure (basically faxing over a request to re-activate); see sample letter below.  As a side note, if you are using EFAST, that system can and will essentially disable a TIN for its own purposes, and you might have to reinstall the software and start over and "add" it as if it were a new plan.  No fun.

EP Entity Control Unit
Internal Revenue Service
Via Fax: 801 620-6900

Re:     xxx Inc. Profit Sharing Plan
    EIN: xx-xxxxxxx

To whom it may concern:

Our EIN for the above named retirement plan has been inactivated.  

Please re activate the EIN for our plan.  The details are as follows:

Name of Plan:    xxx Inc. Profit Sharing Plan
EIN:    xx-xxxxxxx

Address: 
xxxxx, Inc.
xxxxx

xxxxxxx

Responsible person: (Trustee)
Telephone number: xxx xxx-xxxx

If anything further is needed please contact me, or our third party administrator: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sincerely,

(Trustee)
 

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After an hour on hold (thank goodness for speaker phones!), the agent was able to tell us that the ID we had was in fact for an old, terminated Money Purchase Plan.  It was inactive.

But instead of the rigamarole of re-activating and re-titling it, we are just gonna get a brand new ID via online SS4.

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