Ananda Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 My client has a SEP IRA that received contributions for 2021. However, the client wants to set up a DB Plan by year end 2021. Does setting up a DB Plan automatically invalidate the SEP IRA resulting in "excess contributions" for the SEP per 408(d)(4), and thus a tax free distribution to participants if made before tax return is filed in 2022? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 No. The SEP does not behave like a SIMPLE in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ananda Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 OK Thank-you. I found the SIMPLE provision in the Code but no such provision exists for SEP'S. So if an employer has a SEP plan is there a prohibition for it to set up a qualified plan in the same year or does this only apply to SIMPLE plans which would become invalid if a qualified plan is established? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseFan Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 If SEP is on IRS model document Form 5305-SEP, that precludes the sponsor from having another plan. If SEP document is on a pre-approved volume submitter/prototype document then you can have another plan. The SEP is treated as a DC plan. If more than 6% of compensation has already been funded for 2021 then you have a combined plan deduction limit of 31% of compensation, which likely severely limits the DB deduction - unless they can somehow finagle a return of 2021 SEP contributions. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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