Jakyasar Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Looking at a plan doc prepared by another. Calendar plan. 401k eligibility is 6 months (in which 1000 hours of service is required) with entry date first month following completion of 6 months. Can the plan require 1000 hours of service where eligibility is 6 months? PS is 12 months with 1000 hours so this is fine. Entry date is dual entry, 1st and 7th months. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. B. Zeller Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 You can let them in after 6 months if they complete 1000 hours in 6 months, but you can't keep them out if they complete 1000 hours in more than 6 but within 12 months. Luke Bailey, Bill Presson and ugueth 3 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseFan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 exactly Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakyasar Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 To understand what you said: If they worked 1000 hours in 8 months, they enter in the 9th month, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. B. Zeller Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 If that's what the plan says. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakyasar Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Thank you and happy holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Often though, the "plan B" eligibility provision, the 1000 hours in 12 months, requires the full 12 months to elapse like a traditional Year of Service requirement, so it's possible the guy who hits 1000 hours in month 8 doesn't come in until after the full 12 months elapse. So as CBZ said, definitely check what the doc says to that effect. Luke Bailey and David Schultz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserson Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 There is also the new 500-hour rule from the SECURE Act. Long-term part-timers have to be allowed partway into the plan. If the sole eligibility rule is "1,000 hours within 6 months or within 12 months" then you would miss those people. Luke Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Yeah, but that's 2024 if they're smart enough to only count the years after 1/1/2021. Luke Bailey and Bill Presson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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