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  1. Are you an actuary? If not, find one.
    2 points
  2. If one freezes a defined contribution plan, there is no further need in general to make any further contributions. This is NOT the case for a defined benefit plan! Your question brings to mind the following: Someone asks you (presuming that you are not a medical professional) what to do about another person running a fever of 103.5 degrees. What is missing is both the necessary expertise and credentials to provide any useful advice. Whoever is/was the enrolled actuary for the 2015 plan year (and someone must be the plan's enrolled actuary) is the person who can say what the required contribution is for 2015. The fact that the plan is frozen certainly does not eliminate the need to continue making contributions (even if they may be at a lower level)! Knowing nothing more than (a) the plan froze 1/1/15 and (b) after using some of the credit balance for 2014, $60,000 was the remaining credit balance as of 1/1/14, the minimum cash contribution for 2015 could range from $0 (if, for example, the minimum required contribution for 2015 is less than the accumulated value as of 2015 of last year's credit balance - which could be more or less than $60,000 - and the sponsor elects to apply it for the 2015 minimum contribution) to $10,000,000 (or more!). The 2015 contribution will consist of the Target Normal Cost (which, given the freeze, is likely to equal the anticipated expenses to be paid from the fund in 2015) plus any amounts due for shortfall amortizations. Really and truly, only the plan's enrolled actuary can answer such a question! Has an actuarial valuation report for the plan year beginning January 1, 2015 been prepared? You may be able to get something of an idea from that. If not, there is no possible alternative but to obtain one from the plan's enrolled actuary.
    1 point
  3. austin3515

    Early 90's Participant

    Sorry, but it just seems like some of the "suggestions" (such as the forever standard, remembering obsure details from decades ago that people would be willing to testify to under oath no less) while they are commendable in a utopian world, are just not practical. I swear if Microsoft got this question they would say to the participant "Are you kidding me??" and promptly hang up on them. I'll tell you what, one of these days I'm going to call the big 5 accounting firm I worked for when I graduated and ask them for my money and see what they say! I took the distribution in 2000... Better yet, I'll wait 10 years and give it a shot...
    1 point
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