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Andy the Actuary last won the day on January 18 2021
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It’s been five years since I retired and I’m pleased to admit that I have forgotten everything pension except the friends I made as a result of BenefitsLink.
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Holding Data for Ransom
Andy the Actuary replied to Rball4's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
A delightful sticky issue. Let's start by supposing this is the 1950s, you are in the automotive repair business, and your former customer is attempting to obtain his servicing record from you. And you store servicing tickets in boxes by year in numerical ticket order. To what extent should you work for free? On the other hand, if you have a client folder, you might want to provide copies so long as the client is willing to pay reproduction costs. Now, back to the present. If the client were audited by the IRS who demanded the data, doubtful the former actuary would hold the data hostage. It's a small client and sounds like a small actuarial firm that may or may not been employed under an engagement agreement and even so, such agreement might not have covered data transfer in the event the working arrangement was terminated. My own position is that I'll entertain discussion to provide gratis information that the client hadn't sent me and that I hadn't sent to the client. Thus, if the new actuary were arrogant and annoying, I would indicate that I have operated from census sheets the client has provided and the new actuary should obtain these from the client. If the new actuary wants me to save him time, too bad. In my past life working for a major actuarial firm, I saw situations where big dollars were charged for data transference. In you client's situation, I advise the client to pay the $1,500 but make sure you understand what information your getting and in what format. Else, the client cost may greatly exceed what you have presented as a $1,500 rip off. And you need the data now and not after some lengthy legal or ethics battle. Keep in mind. This is not your dog. The client needs to decide how to proceed. You need the data one way or another and its the client's money. Still, you hate to see people stepped on but bull your neck. End of consulting sermon. I'll personally email you to instruct where to send my consulting fee. This was covered in my engagement agreement!!! -
It is interesting how Congress and media refer to the closing of a Social Security loophole when they modified/rescinded the file-and-suspend strategy. When my wife turned 65 and applied for Medicare, we went to a Social Security office to discuss Medicare along with retirement strategy. The SSA recommended that at 66 my wife apply for Social Security, delay her start to age 70 to get the 8% sweetener, and start taking 1/2 of mine, which she's been doing for two years. Interesting that SSA was disclosing and recommending the strategy that Congress identified as a loophole.
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Increased PBGC premiums
Andy the Actuary replied to My 2 cents's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
Mr. 2 Cents: Only caveat with (2) is that by making a greater contribution, plan sponsor could be creating a credit balance he might not later be able to use or worse, it could be forfeited to attain a AFTAP threshold (e.g., 80%) -
It sounds as if you were the preparer of the 5500 (or are you the auditor?) If the case, nothing gets fixed without the authorization of the plan sponsor since doing so might subject the plan sponsor to penalties. On this note, be prepared to walk away if the plan sponsor says "no." I say plan sponsor but not being a compliance expert, unsure whether plan admin, plan sponsor, or trustee is at risk. It might be helpful to others to disclose your role and whether it was an external trustee or plan sponsor trustee who is at fault.
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5500 deadline humor
Andy the Actuary replied to Tom Poje's topic in Humor, Inspiration, Miscellaneous
Thank you GMK. My recollection is that Plymouth was among the first cars to offer these circa 1956. The most famous was the Edsel which positioned the buttons in the center post of the stearing wheel. -
5500 deadline humor
Andy the Actuary replied to Tom Poje's topic in Humor, Inspiration, Miscellaneous
Good thing you gave the obscure hint because age 72 and 43 (among others) work as well. The record is neither a 45 nor 33 1/3 and you've been enjoying RMDs for nearly a decade.
