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I am having a hard time finding how Secure 2.0 will actually impact Top Heavy. I know Top Heavy Rules were changed so now non-excludable and excludable can be tested separately and the Top Heavy minimum can also be allocated to just the non-excludable. I know the provision applies to plans starting after 12/31/2023, but we have differing thoughts on when these options will actually start affecting plans. The prevailing thought is that in order to allocate the Top Heavy minimum to just the non-excludable, the actual Top Heavy must be disagg as well. Since the determination date is the last day of the prior plan year, the consensus is we cannot use the non-excludable option for the minimum allocation until 2025. Another thought is that they are independent of each other, that you can run test with all employees but then allocate the Top Heavy minimum to just the non-excludable employees. I am of the former opinion as I do not see the benefit of using disagg for Top Heavy Test since the more Non-Key balances the better for the percentage. My thoughts are the only way it makes sense to split the test is so you can get the benefit of allocating the top heavy minimum to the non-excludable, since more likely than not there are no excludable key employees which makes the test 0%. Basically I think you have to allocate the Top Heavy Minimum in the same manner as you ran the test. Thoughts? Another thought that is confusing the issue, is what if there is a Key employee who is in the excludable test, so that test is actually top heavy? With ADP/ACP and Coverage, we know there is the option to disregard the excludable employees from the test. I haven't see that spelled out for Top Heavy as yet, and if my previous observation is accurate and there is a Key employee who is excludable and that test is technically "top heavy" does that mean that those excludable employees now need a top heavy minimum?
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Does anyone know or have a reference as to whether a small employer subject to the automatic increase in the deferral limits for a SIMPLE starting in 2024 can elect to make the higher contributions? Notice 2024-2 clarified that employers with more than 25 employees can elect the higher limits and must make the higher employer contributions (4% match or 3% NEC) but are the small employers able to elect the higher employer contributions? I have not been able to find anything that says they can (or cannot). SIMPLE IRAs are not my wheelhouse so I appreciate you in advance!
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What say all you interesting people - in light of the new SECURE 2.0 rules for mid-year replacement of a SIMPLE IRA program with an appropriate 401(k) w/ safe harbor - is 60 days notice to participants required? Typically employers would have to notify folks by Nov 1 that the SIMPLE would not be continuing for the upcoming year. Since we are past Nov 1, do folks think notice now is sufficient? Assuming that effective Jan 1 there is an allowed replacement (401(k) SH as provided in SECURE 2.0), is notice now enough? 30 days? Something else? Seems like there is interest in having no SIMPLE in 2024, for a cleaner break, if that is possible. If there is another thread already discussing this, please point me in that direction. Thanks!
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Secure Act 2.0 contains provisions for Roth contributions to SIMPLE IRAs beginning 2023. Has anyone seen any documents that offer that option? I have looked at the IRS website at forms 5304-SIMPLE (Rev. March 2012) and 5305-SIMPLE (Rev March 2002). Neither has been updated to provide for Roth. Is that really an option if the federal forms don't offer it? I am working on preparing notices to clients that sponsor SIMPLE plans and want to make sure I cover the options available. Thanks.
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