Guest 5500 Posted October 1, 2002 Posted October 1, 2002 Having trouble with 5500 question 8(a) for a multiemployer (Taft-Hartley) "annuity plan". I've considered it to be money purchase plan since contributions are not discretionary and are spelled out under the plan and the CBA. Also, I don't believe Taft Hartley MP plans are subject to Sec. 412 minimum funding standards. With EFAST, answering 2C for MP plan results in an error for not completing Sch R line 6, which I believe does not apply. Instructions do not indicate that question 8a is only for purposes of Sec 412, so I have always used MP designation. This doesn't work anymore. How should this be handled? I am using this board instead of multiemployer board hoping for more responses. Thanks
RTK Posted October 1, 2002 Posted October 1, 2002 A multiemployer plan can be a money purchase pension plan or a profit sharing plan. Under Code section 401(a)(27), the plan must designate what type of plan it is. It does not make any difference whether contributions are discretionary. If a money purchase pension plan, a multiemployer plan is subject to 412 minimum funding standards, which presents fairly ugly issues with respect to delinquent contributions. This fact alone warrants converting a multiemployer mp plan to a ps plan.
Guest 5500 Posted October 1, 2002 Posted October 1, 2002 I'm aware of the MP v. PS designation you refer to but understood that even if it is a MP plan under the 401(a)(27)(B) designation, it was not subject to minimum funding standards under 412. I am basing this on the Conference Committee Explanation to PL-93-406 which introduced Sec 412. In summary, it says that for purposes of minimum funding, Taft-Hartley plans that provide a specified level of contributions are not to be considered money purchase plans if the employer or his representative participated in the determination of the benefits. I have understood this to mean it would be considered a MP plan for all purposes except for minimum funding standards. Problem is that the 5500 does not offer a choice for plans considered money purchase for other purposes, but not money purchase for purposes of Sec 412.
RTK Posted October 1, 2002 Posted October 1, 2002 My copy of the conference report provides that "For purposes of this rule, a plan (for example, a so-called Taft-Hartley Plan) which provides an agreed level of benefits and a specified level of contributions during the contract period is not to be considered a money purchase pension plan if the employer or his representative participated in the determination of benefits." Because of the reference to "an agreed level of benefits and a specified level of contributions," it is not clear to me that this was intended to remove this type of plan (whether or not Taft-Hartley) from the minimum funding standards. The intent could have been to make sure that this type of plan would be treated as a defined benefit plan, even if the employer negotiated a cents per hour contribution. In any case, there is nothing in the Code (or any guidance that I have seen) that states a money purchase pension plan is not subject to minimum funding standards if a multiemployer plan, which makes me a little nervous on relying on not necessarily clear legislative history. I did misspeak in laying all of the delinquent contribution woes on the minimum funding standards. Under IRS audit guidelines for multiemployer plans, the IRS states its position that a pension plan under which the allocation of contributions or a service credit is conditioned on an employer making the required contributions violates the definitely determinable benefit rule. Unfortunately, I can't help with 5500 directly, since I have managed to avoid them.
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