Belgarath Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 Win or lose, I'm not sure I'd want to be on campus at BU or BC tonight...
jevd Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 or in the Bronx JEVD Making the complex understandable.
AndyH Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 jevd wins the prize for that comment. Just imagine. And imagine if the umpires actually make a mistake in the Sox favor! The Red Sox need a few balls and strikes going their way tonight or Lowe will self destruct. quinn, did you jinx ManRam? The Mullet? Where'd they go? p.s. UMass Amherst will be the hottest MA spot tonight.
Chester Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 Whichever ever way tonight's game turns out (I hope the Sox win) this World Series will have to go down as one of the most (if not the most) entertaining, memorable and dramatic Series of all time! I thought last year's Series was good, but this one beats it hands down. Kudos to the Sox for hanging in there and showing some guts and determination--coming back to foil Rivera two nights in a row was unbelievable. Ortiz is one fantastic clutch hitter (does he have another clutch hit left for tonight?).
jevd Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 I wonder if George S. slapped ARod's wrist or shook his hand for a nice try??? JEVD Making the complex understandable.
Belgarath Posted October 21, 2004 Posted October 21, 2004 All of New England just exhaled for the first time at midnight last night. Great series, but I sure am glad it's over. Now I can get some sleep for a couple of nights. I'm hoping St. Louis beats Houston, just because I don't want Clemens to have the opportunity to beat the Sox. If any of my posts seem dumber than usual, just blame it on sleep deprivation.
Guest quinn the car fixer Posted October 21, 2004 Posted October 21, 2004 are we going to see the midget in the series? where has he been?
Chester Posted October 21, 2004 Posted October 21, 2004 I know what you mean Belgarath. In my last post I referred to the Yankees-Red Sox series as the World Series--I think the lack of sleep is catching up to me. Wow, what a comeback! Who woke up Damon last night?
AndyH Posted October 21, 2004 Posted October 21, 2004 Francona's lack of sleep must have accounted for bringing in Pedro last night for one inning. Otherwise, it made zippo sense. But lots of his decisions left me scratching my head. And they all worked out, so I will no longer criticize the manager. ......provided of course that we win the World Series........ ......But then the Celtics and Bruins coaches better better look out. We are running out of coaches to complain about! up here.
mwyatt Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Hey Andy: Actually, I wouldn't be too worried about Roger if Houston pulls this out. We didn't have much problem with him last year, and I'd venture that much of his success in Houston this year had to do with switching leagues (and hence having to face batters who weren't familiar with him). What a series. I was about ready last Saturday night after the debacle to start a bonfire of RS stuff in my yard, and now look where we are. My one complaint last night is that Fox didn't have a hidden camera in George's office; talk about a great reality series that would have been!
stephen Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Now we know it's the Cardinals heading to Boston- Will the curse be broken? These teams met in the 1946 and 1967 World Series with both ending with the Cardinal's winning the 7th game. The Red Sox also lost the 7th game of the World Series in 1975 to Cincinnati and in 1986 to the NY Mets. GOOD LUCK TO THE RED SOX!
AndyH Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Mike, You've got that right. And I jumped off the bandwagon 10/14 as indicated above while you were prepping that bonfire. Game 3 was totally disgusting. The turnaround was amazing. Did you hear about the NY Post columnist calling this the start of "The Curse of A-Rod!"? I said it then and I'll say it now that I have soooo glad that deal not go through.
mwyatt Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Wonder how Rodriguez's endorsement deals are going in NYC? Looks like he's been tagged now with "A-Fraud", and a personal favorite from the SOSH site: Slappy McBluelips.
Chester Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 What do the Sox do with Ortiz when the games are played in St. Louis (no DH)? Do they play him at first even though he is a defensive liability? I would think they can't afford to not have his bat in the line-up. I also wondered why Martinez was used for one inning in the 7th game with a 7 run lead--if he doesn't pitch in that game you can use him as the starter on Saturday night, and have the ability to start him 3 games in the World Series if it goes 7 games.
Belgarath Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 First base! And I must say I don't quite understand the A-Rod bashing earlier. Aside from his giant ego/personality, which after all isn't an uncommon problem among the spoiled brats in pro sports... Yes, he had an "off" year - for him, which is still better than 95% of the rest of the league. Great shortstop - better than Jeter - but he played third this year, which can be a distraction - not an easy position to learn/play in the first year. Stole bases. I'll tell you what - take a poll of major league managers, and ask them if they'd rather have Rodriguez or Cabrera. I expect he'll again put up stellar numbers next year. I just hope he doesn't do it against Boston!
mwyatt Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Hey Belgarath: Just check out the NY papers for why A-Rod is getting bashed. The Yankees didn't shell out that type of money for gaudy stats during the season; they paid it for production in October, which he sorely failed at providing (0-4 in game 7, did not hit in key situations in the series). I was listening to Peter Gammons on the way home yesterday and he brought up the point that several RS players came to Mark Belhorn's defense after the media was dumping on him earlier in the series for not hitting. However, after the game 6 brain cramp tomahawk chop, you heard no yankee players coming to A-Rod's defense after some of the RS players were ragging on him. So no, in retrospect we're perfectly happy not having the A-Rod trade from last winter go through, and the Yankees are regretting their move. For such an "impact" player, why did Seattle and Texas both get better after his departure?
Belgarath Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Didn't say he was well liked, or even likable. Just that he's a great player. As for for production in October, he batted .320 in the playoffs(behind only Matsui among his Yankee teammates) while Jeter hit .245. Now, Jeter is a class act, and A-Rod isn't. I just can't see bashing his performance, which was pretty good. Gaudy numbers in October are largely a matter of luck/coincidence anyway - even the greatest players are inconsistent in a given short series or two. As for teams getting better without him, I firmly believe that ANY team has a good chance of improving if they take out one player making 15 or 20 million a year, and replace him with several other players at a lesser price. No hitter is worth that much, IMHO, although you can make a pretty good argument that a really dominant pitcher, such as Randy Johnson, might be - particularly in a seried where they might be able to pitch 3 out of 7 games. Only one thing I'm certain about - it's harder to figure out baseball teams and players than to interpret IRS regs, but the discussions are a lot more fun!
jevd Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 And everybody said AMEN! JEVD Making the complex understandable.
could be me maybe not Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Belgarath, remember, the question isn't would you rather have A-Rod or Cabrera, it's a question of A-Rod or Carbrera plus one or two additional star players. Let's see, A-Rod or Cabrera, Foulke and Varitek for example. With very few exceptions, one star position player never seems to have that much of an impact for some reason.
mwyatt Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Hey Belgarath: I will say this: A-Rod had the chance to put this thing away. He didn't in game 5, and was ineffectual (and somehow flipped back to High School Cornerback mentality rather than Baseball God), committing a moronic play and bringing Jeter back to first. For this, you pay $25m? I'll guarantee you that the NYY fans don't buy into the short series variance you mentioned. They expect someone to deliver in the clutch wearing the pinstripes, and A-Rod has not demonstrated it. I would say the venom in Boston against A-Rod is minimal; try perusing the NY papers, message boards, etc. Now that will make your hair stand up on end.
Guest clyde14 Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 another late night, but pedro showed up. can't help but wonder what is next for him. hope tonight ends it all...
stephen Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 So tell me why the city of Boston would schedule a victory parade for Saturday if they win tonight or Sunday if they win tomorrow night and make the parade public knowldge? This is crazy! Here I was thinking they woulr wrap it up in ST. Louis and lo and behold they giftwrap motivation for the Cardinals... How dumb can they be? (Oh yeah, thius is the same city that is still working on the BIG DIG...) GO SOX GO!
J2D2 Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I've always had a soft spot in my heart for both the Red Sox and the Cardinals. However, I'm cheering for the Sox this time just so we don't have to hear about The Curse any longer. Maybe then, the sympathies of the Nation (outside of NYC, anyways) will shift to another deserving team, the long-suffering Cleveland Indians.
AndyH Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 Prediction: 9-5 Red Sox in Game 4. Who's your Daddy, er um, I mean WS MVP (still tired)? p.s. Is Tavares aka Freddy Krueger going to hit somebody in the head tonight? It sure looked like he was trying last night.
K-t-F Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 Well.... Pedro did it in magnificantly last night (with a little help from David "Pappi" Ortiz throwing out Suppan to sustain his shutout!). Who said he could only hit Manny also took the crowd out of it early with the solo shot in the first... Do you think Manny wanted to make up for his poor play the game before? HR in the first, throwing out Walker at the plate. An all around wonderful effort by the "Idiots" from Boston I must say... They certainly have stepped up to the plate after facing elimination down 3-0 against... who were those guys? 7 straight games! WOW, the Sox are on fire! If they take it tonight, now that will be an accomplishment for the recordbooks.... The only baseball team Down 3-0 to come back and win the ALCS, then a "sweep" to win the World Series. As many have said, "you couldn't write this" Has anyone thought of this? Full eclipse of the moon tonight... the moon will not be blackend from the sky but rather it will be a deep red (from the light of the sun being bent around the earth onto the moon)... a sign that the so called "curse" has been lifted? Its not easy being green
Chester Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 Has anyone even thought of the possibility that the Red Sox could lose 4 straight to the Cardinals? If that would happen, you would hear so much about the curse still being alive the Red Sox nation would never recover. Believe me, I am rooting for the Red Sox to win, but that definitely would be a cruel fate to endure (especially after the Red Sox just came back against the Yanks to become the first team in MLB to accomplish this feat). Boston needs to close this Series out tonight and not allow St. Louis any reason to think they can come back like the Bosox did in the ALCS.
K-t-F Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 AHHHHH ! ! ! you are talking blasphemy! But seriously... anything could happen. You saw it with the Yanks. But I think that the Sox aren't overly confident like the Yankees were. Its not easy being green
AndyH Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I agree that the ball starts rolling down the other side of the hill if we do not win tonight, if for no other reason than our pitching gets shaky, Wakefield, ?????, then Pedro on short rest. But, if the worst case happened, it would be a different curse, something more like the goat curse. The Babe's been exorcized. Maybe it would be the pitchfork curse, or the Beer curse. Not the Bambino though. Actually it would be Sunday night so it would be the Halloween curse. Just don't let Mike Myers pitch, whatever happens!
Belgarath Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 I think it's more like the ball rolling up the hill, with all of us long suffering Sox fans as Sisyphus.
K-t-F Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 Maybe she is in St. Louis trying to scalp a ticket to history. Another record could be broken for the longest winning streak in playoff history, 8 straight games. If they do it this team will be the talk of sports for a while. Did you hear... Theo Epstein chartered a plane and took the Fenway ticket takers and other park employees down to St. Louis to see the game. Its not easy being green
david rigby Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 The Yankees won at least 8 straight payoff games measured over parts of 98 and 99. Sorry, I cannot find the exact number. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Fredman Posted October 27, 2004 Posted October 27, 2004 Epstein chartered a plane and took the Fenway ticket takers and other park employees down to St. Louis to see the game. I always wondered what happened to Epstein. I wonder what Freddie "Boom-Boom" Washington is doing these days. I'm rooting for the red team.
K-t-F Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Another showing dominated by the Redsox. D-Lowe showed up and pitched 7 shutout innings. Manny is MVP.... but as Francona said, they were all MVPs. I think we new it from the 4th pitch of the game that these idiots came to win the World Series! St. Louis fans were wonderful, lets not take anything away from them. The best in the National League. Every time their big bats came to the plate I thought "this is the inning they are gonna be on the board and overcome us". I think pitching was the key. I wanted to add that I just heard that the St. Louis club let all (or some) of the Redsox fans outside the park in to see their team win. Wow... that is class. Its not easy being green
Chester Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 DING DONG THE CURSE IS DEAD, THE CURSE IS DEAD, THE CURSE IS DEAD!!!!
david rigby Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Red Sox Nation. The combination of paranoia and pompous. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
AndyH Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Pompous? Is that the perception? Whatever it is is the result of enduring 86 years of Yankee trash talking.
K-t-F Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Here Here ! How can the Redsox be called pompous... The team worked hard to accomplish what was considered impossible, overcame huge odds to come back from being down 3 games to beat the "pompous" Yankees. The Cards series was just that, a new series, no looking down on anyone. Its not easy being green
Guest clyde14 Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 the joy will be next season-opening day at fenway vs the Yankees. raising the championship banner in front of jeter and arod will be redeeming. already planning to get tickets for that day....
RCK Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 OK, pax might have overstated it a little ibt. But to an objective(?) third party, now that the Curse of the Bambino is over, the Red Sox have moved from the hapless loser category with the Cubs to the overspending to ruin baseball category with the Yankees. RCK
AndyH Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 True, but what else are you going to do if you are in the same division as the evil empire and you have not won in 86 years? Now, reign in everybody's spending (yeah, right). Gotta love those labor unions for people making millions. Why is that legal? Because of the antitrust exemption? How about doing away with that as well?
AndyH Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 This may only be know to Red Sox Nation Central: Our_Papi_.doc
Fredman Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 Story for Red Sox fans... http://money.cnn.com/2004/11/06/news/newsm..._ebay/index.htm Maybe someone else can put up the link to the auction. Ebay is off limits at the machine I'm at right now.
RCK Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 What happened to the Red Sox Nation? Starting a new streak?
AndyH Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 http://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=30324
stephen Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Thre is joy in mudville since the Evil Empire (NYY) are out of the playoffs. Perhaps we'll get the Astro's (never been there much less won a ring) vs. White Sox (have not won since 1907) in the World Series.
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