Guest Sponias Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 I have a plan that will be considered a large plan this year. The CPA who will be performing the audit told me that he is using a "guide" which refers to comparative financials. He is asking if he has to prepare comparative financials this year since it's the first year that the plan is considered to be a large plan. If you know where I can obtain an answer to his question, please let me know!
Harwood Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 The AICPA guide "Audits of Employee Benefit Plans" states: "E.02 Although generally accepted accounting principles do not require comparative financial statements, ERISA requires a comparative statement of net assets available for benefits."
JanetM Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 You will have to use your prior year schedule I data, with a bit more information to complete the H this year. The data on the H should match the data in the financial statements. I am getting impression the auditor is new to benefit plan audits from your post. JanetM CPA, MBA
steve-o Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 Per DOL regulations, the statement of net assets available for benefits must be comparative, but the statement of changes in net assets available for benefits may be for the current year only (that one does not have to be comparative, although it can be).
E as in ERISA Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 I'm not sure but if I recall correctly, the beginning numbers might be "unaudited"?
david rigby Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 The role of the original questioner is unclear, but it appears the auditor is asking a non-auditor how to do the audit. That might be a concern. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Lori Friedman Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 I am getting impression the auditor is new to benefit plan audits Sadly, that's often the case. I work for a CPA firm that specializes in benefit plan audits -- some of the nation's largest labor union plans are our clients -- but many firms pick them up as incidental afterthoughts. Considering what's at risk for every plan fiduciary, a haphazard approach is, at best, unfortunate and, at worst, extremely dangerous. Lori Friedman
bzorc Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 To Katherine's post, the statement of net assets available is comparitive. For the year that the plan was a small plan, we provide the information, mark it "unaudited", and include a paragraph in our opinion letter that says the assets for the year in which the plan was a small plan were compiled.
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