Guest 5500 Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Terminated welfare plan has paid off all participant claim obligations and the balance remaining in the trust reverts to the sponsor. There were no employee contributions to the plan. Question: where does the amout returned to the sponsor get reported on 5500 Sch I, Part 1? It does not meet the definition of a transfer for Line 2k because it is not to another plan. Do I just include it in line 2h Other Expenses in order to get the begining and ending net plan assets to reconcile?
Lori Friedman Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 This must be a tax-exempt benefits trust within the meaning of I.R.C. Sec. 501©(9)? If yes, how can the assets revert to the employer? Please see Reg. Sec. 1.501©(9)-4(d). Kirk Maldonado, can you weigh in on this one? Lori Friedman
Guest 5500 Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 It is not a tax-exempt trust. I know about the Sec. 4976 issue, but still wonder how to show it on the Sch I?
Kirk Maldonado Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Off the top of my head, I think that there can be a reversion if the trust didn't qualify as a VEBA under section 501©(9). My recollection is that ERISA permits reversions under conditions similar to those for plans subject to the PBGC. Relying upon my memory (which is always an iffy proposition), I think that you can have a reversion if amounts remain after all liabilities have been paid off Kirk Maldonado
Lori Friedman Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 It's interesting that Schedule I provides such detailed instructions about how to report a reversion on Line 5a, yet there's no guidance whatsoever about reconciling Lines 1 and 2 for the very same transaction. I agree that a reversion isn't a Line 2k transfer, which has a clear definition. My best guess -- report the reversion as a Line 2h "other expense". If the number agrees exactly to the amount report on Line 5a, a reader can easily follow what you've done. If the numbers aren't the same (i.e. you lump the reversion with other plan expenses), attach an explanatory statement. Does anyone have a better idea? Lori Friedman
JanetM Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Only the fee line could remotely be used, the others are clearly defined and don't fit. Is not a transfer acccording to my manual. I would put it on 2h and be done with it. Don't forget to file your 5330 and pay your tax while you are at it. JanetM CPA, MBA
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