Guest Carol the Writer Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 I have a friend whose husband is a participant in a multiemployer defined benefit plan. He had "4 1/2" years of active service, plus one year of service during which he was disabled. Now he is being notified that he is he has forfeited all benefit rights, even the rights to refund of his mandatory employee contribution account. Is this legal? Can they do this to him? Any thoughts would be appreciated. And Happy Thanksgiving!
Effen Posted November 24, 2005 Posted November 24, 2005 I have seen some strange vesting rules used by multi-employer plans, but they tend to be more generous, not more restrictive. A lot would depend on the number of hours he was working. Either way, I believe employee contributions are always 100% vested. However, he may think they are employee contributions, when in reality they are employer contributions. Since they negotiate the contribution rates, and usually trade pay for contributions, they often think of them as "my money", when in reality it is employer money. The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
david rigby Posted November 24, 2005 Posted November 24, 2005 Effen is correct. The participant should get out and read his SPD. (He did save it, didn't he?) I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Guest Carol the Writer Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Thank you very much. That's what I thought.
Guest Brian4 Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 If the individual has four plus years of coverage under the plan, he or she can reasonably expect the plan administrator to respond to a request for the Summary Plan Description. It may also address how the plan is financed. Employee contributions to multiemployer pension plans are rare. Employer contributions are often made on a formula that references units of work, such as hours of service. But, these are employer contributions. Looking at payroll stubs for the indivdual could help clarify if employee contributions were made.
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