Guest Benefitsrock Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 An employer provides employees with a nominal death benefit ($5,000). The benefit is paid from the employer's general assets, it is not an insured arrangement. I believe the amount is taxable, reportable on a 1099-R and potentially subject to withholding. Does anyone agree/disagree? I would greatly appreciate any thoughts/insights. Thanks.
J Simmons Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Taxable? Agreed, since the 1996 law change. Reportable on Form 1099-R? Agreed. Potentially subject to withholding? Don't know of what would require that. I'm curious about what leads you to this thought? John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
Guest Benefitsrock Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for your reply. I think we may have to withhold given that withholding applies to the taxable portion of payments made from pension, profit-sharing, deferred comp. plans, etc. While I understand the death benefits I described are different from these benefits, they are somewhat similar. I also generally am conservative such that if it is unclear whether to withhold, withhold.
Guest Harry O Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Death benefits are not subject to income tax or FICA withholding.
Guest Benefitsrock Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Can you provide a source? Given that Code Section 101(a) doesn't apply because the death benefits are simply a contractual obligation to pay an amount and are not an "insured" arrangement, I don't know how the benefits can avoid being subject to taxation.
masteff Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Can you provide a source? Given that Code Section 101(a) doesn't apply because the death benefits are simply a contractual obligation to pay an amount and are not an "insured" arrangement, I don't know how the benefits can avoid being subject to taxation. Subject to taxation, yes, but here we're speaking to withholding. There's no mandatory w/holding requirement on death benefits. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
Guest Benefitsrock Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 I appreciate your reply. I may be pushing it but can you provide a source that says there isn't a withholding obligation?
Don Levit Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Benefitsrock: The arrangement is not subject to income tax. See Private Letter Ruling 199921036. Here, the benefits are entirely self-funded. "Federal tax cases have held life insurance contracts to exist in situations where there is not a standard commercial life insurance contract between the insured and the insurer." "Taxpayer's death benefits are paid from Taxpayer's general account, rather than from a particular fund. Under Taxpayer's representation that it has ample funds to pay Plan benefits, this difference with Odom should not affect the result." Conclusion: "Amounts received as death benefit payments from Taxpayer are amounts received under a life insurance contract that are excludable from gross income under 101(a)." Don Levit Chaz 1
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