401 Chaos Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 I understand that final 409A regulations generally exempt payment / reimbursement of health insurance premiums on behalf of former employees for up to the COBRA period. What if employer with self-insured plan wants to provide coverage for up to 2 years as part of severance benefit? Can you provide for reimbursement of COBRA premiums paid by ex-executive for up to 18 months to get around the 105(h) discrimination issue but then also provide for reimbursement (or possibly even direct payment of) premiums for ex-executives coverage under a fully insured individual health insurance policy for the remaining 6 months. Seems reimbursing under an individual policy rather than the self-insured group plan for the last 6 months should take care of any discriminatory concerns under 105(h) and should also arguably be exempt from 409A as that remaining 6 months would be nontaxable benefits to the former employee under applicable IRS guidance that provides for a broad definition of the term "employee" under 105 and 106 extending to include former / terminated employees. Since 409A seemingly exempts unlimited payment / reimbursement of nontaxable benefits, the last 6 months of payments should also be exempt from 409A. In short, the entire 24 months of continued health coverage payments would be exempt from 409A--the first 18 months exempt under the general reimbursement for COBRA period rule and the last 6 months exempt under the exception for non-taxable amounts. I suppose in some (perhaps many) cases it may be cheaper to cover individuals under an individual policy from the start rather than under COBRA. Seems allowing for reimbursement of either COBRA premiums or premiums for substantially similar individual policy for first 18 months should also be fine so long as it is clear that reimbursement after the COBRA period must be limited to coverage outside of the self-insured group plan / COBRA. Any thougths?
Don Levit Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 401 Chaos: I have not read the 409A regs. I am curious, though, if it says anything about medical benefits that extend past COBRA? For example, if you look at PLR9834037, it states, ""The Committee report for DEFRA allows a plan to be considered a welfare benefit plan if it is a continuation of a plan maintained currently or in the past for active employees. The benefits provided by the 501©(9) Trust are a continuation of the medical plan for active employees. The fact that the 501©(9) Trust only provides benefits to retirees, does not cause the deduction limits of section 404 to apply rather than the deduction limits of sections 419 and 419A. In other words, wouldn't the medical plan for retirees not be considered deferred comp? Don Levit
401 Chaos Posted August 16, 2007 Author Posted August 16, 2007 Don, Thanks for your response. I have excerpted below the portion of the preamble summarizing this aspect of the final regulations which do specifically tie into COBRA. I am not that familiar with your PLR and the situation we are looking at involves a terminated employee rather than a retiree per se but I think the same general concept applies. There are other PLRs (sorry do not have cite handy right now) that basically notes that former employees will continue to be treated as employees for 105 purposes. I guess there is some concern to my mind though where the individual policy to be provided / reimbursed is essentially a new policy and not simply continuation of the same benefits / plan that was (is) provided to active employees. 6. Reimbursement and Fringe Benefit Plans a. In General The proposed regulations provided that certain plans under which a service recipient reimburses certain types of expenses (for example, reasonable moving expenses or reasonable outplacement expenses directly related to a termination of the service provider’s services) actually incurred by a service provider (including certain in-kind benefits provided to the service provider) following a separation from service are not nonqualified deferred compensation plans for purposes of section 409A, if such reimbursements are available only for expenses incurred, and the reimbursements are made during a limited period (generally not after the second taxable year of the service provider following the separation from service). In response to questions from commentators, the final regulations clarify that a right to a benefit that is excludible from income will not be treated as a deferral of compensation for purposes of section 409A. Accordingly, for example, an arrangement to provide health coverage excludible from income under section 105 generally would not be subject to section 409A. Many commentators requested increased flexibility to provide for reimbursement arrangements upon a separation from service, including certain requests to exempt broad categories of such arrangements, such as the continuation of any plan in which the service provider participated while performing services. The Treasury Department and the IRS believe that an exemption from coverage under section 409A is not appropriate in such circumstances, because such plans may provide for rights to significant amounts of deferred compensation over lengthy periods of time. However, the final regulations extend the limited period during which taxable reimbursements of medical expenses may be provided, to cover the period during which the service provider would be entitled (or would, but for such arrangement, be entitled) to continuation coverage under a group health plan of the service recipient under section 4980B (COBRA) if the service provider elected such coverage and paid the applicable premiums. In addition, the final regulations contain several provisions governing reimbursement plans (including plans providing in-kind benefits) that constitute nonqualified deferred compensation plans for purposes of section 409A, so that taxpayers will be able to design such arrangements to comply with the payment timing requirements of section 409A. For a discussion of these provisions, see section VII.B.2 of this preamble.
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