RCK Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 We have a difference of opinion in our office on the following: Participants have been reported on a Form SSA in the past as an Add because they terminated and did not take a distribution. They are still in that status when the plan is merged into another plan (and the other plan is the survivor). In the final 5500s, do you report them as a D on the merging plan and an A for the successor plan so that you are sure that the Social Security Administration tracks that right and (assuming they do not take a distribution). OR do you do nothing special for them in the merger relying on the Social Security Administration to pick up the merger/transfer data from the final Schedule H? Any thoughts?
WDIK Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 relying on the Social Security Administration ...but then again, What Do I Know?
pmacduff Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 assuming same sponsor, different plans?? IMHO I think the "most correct" way would be to report on the "old" plan as "D" and the new plan as "A" as you suggest. My logic is that even if the Sponsor remains the same, the Social Security Administration is going to tell the participant (when they apply for benefits) that they MAY have a benefit in "such & such" a Plan.
JanetM Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 We have done a few mergers here (we are plan sponsor not TPA) we have filed final return for merged plan and shown all on SSA with D. Then the return for the new combined plan shows all with an A. Has worked so far, no one has received two letters. JanetM CPA, MBA
RCK Posted July 16, 2008 Author Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks for all the comments. Interestingly, I just got a SSA inquiry from a spouse. Participant termed in 1994 from Company A, and was reported on SSA for the ESOP plan as an Add. He was paid out in 1999. He was not reported as a D at any point. Later in 1999 we (Company B) acquired A, wound down the plan, paid out everyone we could find, and moved the few lost participants into an ongoing 401(k) plan. We did the final 5500, reporting it under the Company A plan name and EIN, but listing Company B as the sponsor. And the spouse gets the SSA notice with the Company A ESOP as the plan and Company B as the sponsor. So to Kim Sheek's question: I'm not sure that Social Security gets the Schedule H information, but they are able to pick up subsequent changes.
PAL Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 I would report as a D under the old plan and as a C under the new plan. The C code is for: Code C — Use this code for a participant previously reported under another plan number who will now be receiving his/her future benefit from the plan reported on this schedule. Also complete boxes (b), ©, (i), and (j). PAL
RCK Posted July 24, 2008 Author Posted July 24, 2008 Thanks to everyone for their thoughts. We are taking the "D for the old Plan and C for the new Plan" approach.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now