Ken Davis Posted June 24, 2009 Posted June 24, 2009 E'er and E'ee agree that E'er will pay E'ee $xx if E'ee works two more years. Payment will be made the day after the two-year period has passed and the plan doesn't provide that this timing may be changed by the E'ee. Am I correct that the deferral election requirement under 409A(a)(4) is not applicable? Thanks, Ken Davis
Guest George Chimento Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 <<E'er and E'ee agree that E'er will pay E'ee $xx if E'ee works two more years. Payment will be made the day after the two-year period has passed and the plan doesn't provide that this timing may be changed by the E'ee. Am I correct that the deferral election requirement under 409A(a)(4) is not applicable?Thanks, Ken Davis>> It's a short term deferral and is not subject to 409A.
Ken Davis Posted July 6, 2009 Author Posted July 6, 2009 <<E'er and E'ee agree that E'er will pay E'ee $xx if E'ee works two more years. Payment will be made the day after the two-year period has passed and the plan doesn't provide that this timing may be changed by the E'ee. Am I correct that the deferral election requirement under 409A(a)(4) is not applicable?Thanks, Ken Davis>>It's a short term deferral and is not subject to 409A. A two-year deferral is a short-term deferral?
jpod Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 "Short-term deferral" is 409A lingo for an arrangement whereby the deferred compensation will be paid within a short period of time after the deferred compensation ceases to be subject to a "substantial risk of forfeiture" (more 409A lingo). Based on your facts the $XXX ceases to be subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture only upon expiration of the 2-year period. No offense intended, but I am surprised that you are attempting to resolve an issue under 409A yet don't know what "short-term deferral" means.
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