dmwe Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 A large plan money purchase pension plan was merged into a new 401k profit sharing plan. There will of course be an audit report for the profit sharing plan, but does there need to be a final audit report for the terminated and merged money purchase plan? The mppp was merged in March of 2010.
J Simmons Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 A large plan money purchase pension plan was merged into a new 401k profit sharing plan. There will of course be an audit report for the profit sharing plan, but does there need to be a final audit report for the terminated and merged money purchase plan? The mppp was merged in March of 2010. When you say merged, do you mean that there was a plan (MPP) with a three-digit number (e.g., 001) and that there was also then created a new plan (k) with a different three-digit number (e.g., 002), and only after that new plan (k-002) was established there were additional documents prepared and signed on behalf of both plans, addressing the facts that (1) the assets of the MPP-001 would then be transferred to the trustee of the K-002, and (2) what responsibilities then that the trustee of the K-002 plan had? Or was it merely a new k plan document was prepared that said it was restating and superseding the MPP plan documents, and that the three-digit number (e.g., 001) that applied before the new documentation would continue to be used? The first situation is truly a plan 'merger' as prior to the asset/obligation transfer there were two separate plans, and after that transfer, only one plan continued to exist. In that case, you would have a 'final' Form 5500 and I would presume that an audit would be necessary (even perhaps more important to be able to make sure that the assets all track appropriately into the K-002 plan). The second situation is sometimes called a "merger" colloquially but is not for purposes of the regulatory provisions. In that case, there would just be one 2010 Form 5500, not a separate "final" one for the MPP plan, but the single audit would cover both eras in 2010, that before the new K documentation and that part of 2010 after the new K documentation. John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
dmwe Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 The new 401k plan is plan #002. The sponsor has decided to try and get a quick audit on the closed MPPP. Maybe we'll get the requested extension to the Oct. 15th deadline. Otherwise the accountant will be scrambling. Thanks
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