12AX7 Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 It appears the DOL is not yet accepting filings for the 2011 plan year. Looks like I would have to put a short plan year (terminated plan) on extension?
12AX7 Posted August 26, 2011 Author Posted August 26, 2011 I can answer my own question ! According to the Sungard Relius Technical Update from 7/7/11, I can upload the 2010 form with the 2011 plan year dates if the 2011 form is not available at the plan filing deadline.
chc93 Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 I can answer my own question ! According to the Sungard Relius Technical Update from 7/7/11, I can upload the 2010 form with the 2011 plan year dates if the 2011 form is not available at the plan filing deadline. So, has there been any update on when the 2011 forms will be available. It appears that if the 2011 forms are released before the plan filing deadline, we'll have to use the 2011 forms. Said another way, if the 2011 filing deadline is Dec 31, 2011 (terminated plan), and the 2011 forms are released in Oct 2011, we cannot use the 2010 forms now?
austin3515 Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 "f the 2011 Form 5500 is not available before the plan or DFE filing use the 2010 Form 5500 and enter the 2011 fiscal year beginning and ending dates on the line provided at the top of the form." From Page 4, top right column of the 5500 instructions for 2010. It's not based on the deadline, it's when the filing is actually made. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
ESOP Guy Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 "f the 2011 Form 5500 is not available before the plan or DFE filing use the 2010 Form 5500 and enter the 2011 fiscal year beginning and ending dates on the line provided at the top of the form." From Page 4, top right column of the 5500 instructions for 2010. It's not based on the deadline, it's when the filing is actually made. We have done what Austin is saying above at least twice this year for plans that terminated in 2/2011 and they were accepted by EFAST. We did it in May 2011 and we have not gotten any feedback so far.
chc93 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Thank you very much for the information and confirmation. I guess, when reading the Note in the instructions, I read too fast. Note (1) speaks to "filing due date", and Note (2) speaks of "filing". I quickly assumed that Note (2) also implied "filing due date". From the instructions: ************************ Notes. (1) If the filing due date falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or Federal holiday, the return/report may be filed on the next day that is not a Saturday, Sunday, or Federal holiday. (2) If the 2011 Form 5500 is not available before the plan or DFE filing use the 2010 Form 5500 and enter the 2011 fiscal year beginning and ending dates on the line provided at the top of the form. ************************
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