Nancy D Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I have a takeover plan which has always filed their 5500 on a cash basis. My preference (and all my other 5500s) are to file on an accrual basis. Is there a problem in changing to an accrual basis? Thanks much for any guidance.
chc93 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I've been told by auditors in the past that changing "once" is OK... that is, change and be consistent. I've actually changed a few plans since then, and the year of change from cash to accrual showed "double" company contributions (prior year cash deposit, current year accrual). Never had problems... (and hope I never do).
Nancy D Posted December 8, 2011 Author Posted December 8, 2011 Thanks for your response. I'll sleep well tonite knowing that I can treat all my plans the same way.
masteff Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Does that require a Form 3115? Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
david rigby Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 You ask, "where can I find form 3115"? http://www.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
chc93 Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 For whatever it's worth, I've never heard of Form 3115 until now, so obviously never filed one. Glancing through the instructions, is this form really for corporate tax returns that change methods of accounting, and not applicable to Form 5500's... kinda like the question of PTIN's, and Form 5500's/Form 1040's. PTIN's not required for 5500's since it's really an "information" form rather than a "tax" form.
masteff Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 For whatever it's worth, I've never heard of Form 3115 until now, so obviously never filed one. Glancing through the instructions, is this form really for corporate tax returns that change methods of accounting, and not applicable to Form 5500's... kinda like the question of PTIN's, and Form 5500's/Form 1040's. PTIN's not required for 5500's since it's really an "information" form rather than a "tax" form. I'll go along w/ that. Especially if you compare 3115 to form 5308 (which is specifically related to plans) http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5308.pdf (Instructions for 5500 mention certain instances where have to get permission to change plan year, so I went searching for a form to do that.) Not to mention the only hits on "plan" in the 3115 form and instructions is in the word "explanation". Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
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