nancy Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 We took over a non-electing church plan. The previous administrator had been been filing 5500s. Now the plan is at a point where they would need an audit and they want to discontinue filing. I can't really file a final return with zero assets and participants as that is not accurate. Does anyone know of a procedure to discontinue filing?
jpod Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 First of all one needs to be certain that it is in fact a church plan (rather than merely the employer or someone else thinks it is a church plan) and that no 410(d) election was EVER made. If you are an ERISA attorney or other specialist and that is your conclusion, I respect that. If you are just repeating what someone told you, then go back to my first sentence. Assuming it is in fact a non-electing church plan, just stop filing. Someone will have to respond to correspondence from DOL and/or IRS, but if it is a non-electing church plan this will be merely a hassle, not a compliance risk. I don't know of any other way of handling this.
nancy Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 This is a brick and mortar church, so it is definitely a church plan. I am relying on the sponsor's representation to me that they never made an election.
ETA Consulting LLC Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 "IF" they are filing Form 5500s, then that would seem to imply that they have, indeed, elected to be subject to ERISA. That in itself would constitute an election, wouldn't it? Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
david rigby Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 That in itself would constitute an election, wouldn't it? I don't think so. You may wish to review regulation 1.410(d)-1 I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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