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Question 231: Physician M owns 100% of a professional association ("P.A."). P.A. in turns owns 50% of a medical clinic that employs physicians and provides medical services to the public. M practices medicine through his professional association at a different location. P.A. does the billing for the medical clinic, for which P.A. recieves $500 per month. The medical clinic in turn provides administrative services for P.A., for which P.A. pays the medical clinic $1,500 a month. On occasion, M visits the medical clinic but does not provide medical services to the clinic. Under the A organization rules, what does it mean to "regularly perform services" or to be "regularly associated with the FSO" in performing services? Is the exchange of billing and administrative services enough to establish an A Organization relationship? | |
Answer: Goodness, I wish we had an answer to your question. But, from the proposed regulations, this is all the answer we have:
Another point to consider: this might be a B-Org relationship. Each organization seems to be providing services historically performed by employees. If the billings for those services come to more than 10% of the organization's total billings, then you have a B-Org style of affiliated service group. Unless it is less than 5%, you might have a B-Org. I have long felt that if it is insignificant (less than 5%), you can make a reasonable argument that not only is it insufficient to create a B-Org, but it shouldn't be sufficient to create an A-Org. With no hard and fast answers, this is a matter that should be reviewed by legal counsel or should be submitted to the IRS for a determination letter. Based on the facts you're presented, a determination letter request might well be warranted. I discuss affiliated service groups in detail in Chapter 13 of my book, Who's the Employer. (The presale on the third edition of the book expires September 30.) |
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