K2retire Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 I am a TPA working at a financial services firm. I do not work on any non qualified plans. My boss seems to think that I should be able to provide him with a sample of boilerplate language for a COLI plan. In the qualified plan area, I can't imagine anyone being willing to share that for free. Is it something that might be available for a non qualified plan?
david rigby Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 I can recommend several very good attorneys who specialize in employee benefits. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
K2retire Posted September 19, 2018 Author Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, david rigby said: I can recommend several very good attorneys who specialize in employee benefits. I'm sure there are many -- but the bottom line is that he wants it for free!
QDROphile Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 COLIs have a pretty shady history, although the IRS has forced some clean up. Not for the inexperienced, if one has any integrity or sense of shame.
XTitan Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 If you want to see examples of NQDC plans, go to the SEC website, pick your favorite company, search out their latest 10-K and scroll through the Exhibit 10 listings. You should be able to find if the company has an NQDC and, if so, which SEC filing includes the text of the plan document. However, you are almost assuredly not going to find COLI or any kind of funding directly mentioned in the NQDC plan document; these are unfunded plans. When a company chooses to informally fund a plan, the TPA really needs direction from the client on what the funding strategy is because there can be a wide variety implemented (from basic to "I can't admin this!"). @QDROphile - I'd agree that companies that plan on utilizing COLI need to be thoughtful and informed. Having trusted advisors is crucial. I'd also agree that there have been some abuses, some of which make for good headlines in national publications, which drove legislation in 1995, 1997 and 2006 to foreclose on those opportunities. - There are two types of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets...
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Ask the life insurance companies your firm works with. They may provide a sample document to try to win your business. Luke Bailey 1 Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
Luke Bailey Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 If it's COLI, the life insurance company selling the policy may have a form. If they don't, use a different insurance company. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Amen, Luke. Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
Luke Bailey Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Patricia, we posted virtually the same answer at same time and yours was not visible to me until I hit Submit Reply, so I gave you a heart. Dave Baker 1 Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Awwww. You warm this old gal's heart. Dave Baker 1 Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
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