HCE Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 We have a Plan that provides benefits vest on 1/1/2022 (if the participant is employed) and are paid within 30 days thereafter (so, within the short-term deferral period). Clearly, the Plan doesn't provide for nonqualified deferred compensation, and 409A doesn't apply. We want to amend the Plan to provide those same benefits vest on 1/1/2023 (if the participant is employed) and are paid within 30 days thereafter (so, still within the short-term deferral period). Can we do this? It seems that we are just switching from one 409A-exempt arrangement to another, so I can see the argument this doesn't ever implicate 409A. But I also see the opportunity for abuse here, and I believe I've seen commentary on this before (I just can't find it now). Bonus Question: Would it be any different if we were accelerating the vesting/payment rather than deferring it further (but still keeping it within the short-term deferral window)?
gc@chimentowebb.com Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 Good question. My quick take from memory: As long as this is the employer's choice, you are OK. However, if the participant made the choice (or had a lot of input, which is facts and circumstances), you should comply with the 1 year/5 year rule to postpone a short term deferral from one calendar year to another. In the case of accelerations of short term deferrals, that happens all the time and should be OK.
EBECatty Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 I see a few alternatives: If the employer can truly do this unilaterally, even if the employee disagrees, there may not be a legally binding right to the payment and 409A is not implicated. My guess is this is not the case (i.e., there is probably a written agreement with the employee that would require the employee's consent to move the payment date). Assuming the above is not the case, the employee's consent would be required to delay vesting. In that case, I think you are stuck with the "addition or extension" of a substantial risk of forfeiture rules, which would require the later (2023) payment to be "materially greater" than existing (2022) payment. Usually 25% is a good rule of thumb. If the amount will not be materially greater, I think as mentioned above you will need to use the 1/5 year rules to make a deferral election of a short-term deferral. Accelerating the vesting (and therefore 30-day payment window) date is usually fine.
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