"Employer (an S corp) has two owner-employees who participate in a tax-qualified profit-sharing plan. The corporation directly pays an investment management fee to an RIA (a percentage of the plan's total assets, usually about $12,000 per year), rather than having the trustees pay the fee from plan assets. Employer pays about $1,200 in administration fees for the preparation of Form 5500 and other administration services. Employer pays for an ERISA fidelity bond covering the plan's trustees (who are the two owner-employees).
COVID-19 occurs, with general chaos and substantial drop in revenue. Employer looks for ways to save costs.
Idea: terminate the profit-sharing plan in order to stop the annual administration fee (no more Form 5500s). Also stops the need to pay for an ERISA fidelity bond. Each employee-participant takes their account balance and
roll the distributed assets into an IRA at Schwab (for example).
The sun comes goes down and then the sun comes up. Employer sets up a new SEP arrangement, which covers all employees (being only the two owner-employees), using a document provided by Schwab (for example). The employer probably will need to set up two new IRAs at Schwab, into which the participants would transfer or rollover the funds that had been distributed from the terminating profit-sharing plan, but maybe Schwab will be happy to use the two existing IRAs.
As with most SEP arrangements, the employer will have no say in the selection of investments by the participants.
Drum roll, please ... Can the employer pay the investment management fees of the two IRAs (or 'SEP-IRAs,' if you prefer), and have the payments be deductible to the corporation and not counted as income to these two SEP
participants?
On the one hand, it is an employer-sponsored retirement plan of a sort. So, like investment management fees on a profit-sharing plan's trust that are paid to an investment adviser directly by a plan sponsor, the payment of the investment management fees on the SEP participants' accounts arguably is similarly deductible.
On the other hand, there is no trust once the employer has made the contributions to the employees' IRAs.
If the payment is not deductible, then essentially the owner-employees are making the payments in their personal capacity, and I suspect there would be no deduction opportunity due to the new rule that eliminates the deduction for an individual taxpayer (even when itemizing deductions) for investment management fees.
(This feels a lot like a 403(b) plan under which contributions are made by an employer to
employees' independently-owned 403(b)(7) custodial accounts or 403(b) annuity contracts, so maybe I should look into precedents in that regard.)"