Guest pjrieck Posted March 27, 2002 Posted March 27, 2002 What does the IRS consider a mistake of fact for purposes of returning employer contributions?
Appleby Posted March 27, 2002 Posted March 27, 2002 Generally arithmetical or clerical errors. Bear in mind that according to congress, such a mistake is very narrowly defined. If a plan is found to use the mistake in fact reason when it does not apply, it could lead to plan disqualification. Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
Belgarath Posted March 27, 2002 Posted March 27, 2002 I agree with Appleby. You can take a look at PLR 9144041 for some background. If it is a DB plan, as opposed to a DC plan, you may be able to get it back out if you qualify under Revenue Procedure 90-49.
Appleby Posted March 27, 2002 Posted March 27, 2002 A copy of PLR 9144041 is attached. Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
Guest pjrieck Posted March 27, 2002 Posted March 27, 2002 Thanks for the responses. This has been helpful.
mbozek Posted March 28, 2002 Posted March 28, 2002 Under ERISA 403©(2) a mistake of fact also includes excess contributions which exceed the deductible amount and contributions to a plan which fails to qualifiy under IRC 401(a) provided that the contributions are refunded within one year of deduction. mjb
Appleby Posted March 28, 2002 Posted March 28, 2002 mbozek, Not necessarily- refer to IRS Notice 89-52. A contribution in excess of the deductible limit (though unintentional) is NOT a mistake of fact. Regarding the 401(a) issue, this is only if the IRS disallows the deduction for the contribution. Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
mbozek Posted March 28, 2002 Posted March 28, 2002 then try PLR 9107033 -make it a contribution for the current year. Also see if Rev rul 91-4 works. mjb
Appleby Posted March 28, 2002 Posted March 28, 2002 OK Revenue ruling 91-4 , in addition to the reasons I mentioned above, also provides the contribution to be returned to the employer, if the contribution is made in the first year of the plan and is contingent on the plan's receiving a favorable determination letter from the IRS, and the IRS denies the plan's qualified status . PLR 9107033 and IRS publication 560, states the contributions in excess of the deductible amount should be carried forward to the next year- if the amount carried forward exceeds the deduction amount for that year, the carry forward should continue until the excess amount is used –up. Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
Guest PAL100759 Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Can anyone provide a link to Revenue Ruling 91-4? Thanks. PAL
E as in ERISA Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 http://www.taxlinks.com/rulings/1991/revrul91-4.htm
jane123 Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Should amounts returned to the employer due to a 'mistake of fact' be reported on Form 1099-R? Thanks in advance
Kirk Maldonado Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Should those amounts be reported on the Form 5500? Kirk Maldonado
Appleby Posted May 10, 2005 Posted May 10, 2005 Form 5330 to report a reversion? Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
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