Now since they know they can exclude a few, now they want to exclude more. They only want to cover about 1/2 the employees as they other 1/2 are not considered long term, are they until a project is finished after a few years. So they will meet the one year of service currently in the plan. But if no HCE's, no testing, no problem. I did tell them if one EE snuck into HCE because of some taxable income that isn't regular pay, it would blow all the testing.