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- Do you see any issue with offering former Company B's employees who become employees of Company A in connection with the transaction the ability to participate in Company A's 401k plan immediately after close? Post-closing Company A will not be in a controlled group of corporations that includes the JV or Company B. I'm assuming that the transaction will trigger a separation from service for former Company B's employees that come over to Company A.
- Will the entity that maintains the SIMPLE IRA (either Company B or the JV) have an obligation to fund elective deferrals and employer contributions through the end of the calendar year for the employees who terminate with Company B and transfer employment to Company A?
- If the JV/Company B do not have any employees post-closing would they be able to dissolve the SIMPLE IRA mid year?
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- Does anyone have any experience with such a correction through VCP? Anything I should be aware of that might come up?
- Does the IRS readily grant corrections in that manner?
- Is there any risk the IRS will require QNECs to be made to NHCEs in the large company? (QNECs are the usual way to correct coverage failures. Here, QNECs don't do any good, because even if QNECs are made to NHCEs in the large company, the plans still can't be aggregated unless they have the same testing methods. So it doesn't seem like the IRS would require QNECs as a solution. But given the large number of NHCEs, possibly having to make a QNEC is concerning. Under the circumstances, does it seem unlikely the IRS would require QNECs?)
- Assuming the IRS allows the testing year to be changed and the plans are tested on an aggregated basis, will the IRS require the plans to pass a benefits, rights, and features test?
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Solo - K set up deadline for 2023
A prospect is wanting to set up a solo K plan for 2023. My first reaction was the deferral for 2023 is not allowed since it was not elected by 12/31/2023 nor contributed on time. But wasn't there a exception for first year plan adoption for sole proprietors. I'm thinking I saw that somewhere. I will research further but I know this group will know this right off the bat.
Thanks
Tom
In-plan Roth Conversion ... clarificatioin
Just a simple clarification...
A client with a 5 participant 401(k) plan asked about the mega backdoor roth option. I explained that every year we max out the plan to the 415 limit, there is no room for a voluntary after tax contribution. Can she convert the PS contribution to ROTH each year with an in-plan conversion?
Distribution Didn't Happen - probably an easy answer
Terminated participant, instructions sent to brokerage firm to pay out said participant. The payout didn't happen, and participant is asking for earnings on top of the original distribution amount.
Is there a standard for how to calculate "lost earnings"? Should the brokerage firm have standards that would dictate this answer?
Thanks all!
Top-Heavy Innoculation Exclusion
"In the event hat a Plan is top-heavy for a Plan Year, no Key Employees shall be eligbile to participate to make any Elective Deferrals under the Plan."
Is that a valid exclusion? What I'm trying to do is have a stop-gap in the plan so that even if a Key Employee contributes to a plan that ends up being top-heavy they just have ineligible contributions and not a top-heavy minimum. We have plans where we 'know' it's going to be top-heavy eventually. We just don't know if it's in 1 year, 2 years or 3 years for example. And of course we tell them to stop contributing in January until we can run the test but I'm afraid if someone forgets it could cost them tens of thousands.
I will tell you I asked a guru and he felt that operationally it was a cutback. I would be comfortable explaining that risk to the client but telling them on the plus side their plan as written can never be required to fund the THM. And that is invaluable.
ADP/ACP first year 3% rule
1. Plan established 2022
2. Prior year testing method elected in the document
3. Discretionary Match - nothing funded for 2022
For the first year, the 3% rule was used - HCEs 0% NHCEs 3% - plan passes ADP
They never made a match until 2023. Since this was the first plan year of the match, can they use the 3% first year rule for the match contribution?
SIMPLE IRA
I'd love some feedback on the following scenario to see if I'm thinking about this correctly.
Company A (which maintains a 401k plan) and Company B (which maintains a SIMPLE IRA) intend to create a JV. Company A will hold less than 80% interest in the JV after the transaction. Company B's employees will be transferred to Company A in connection with the transaction and become employees of Company A. The intent is to offer Company A's 401k plan to the former employees of Company B (who participated in the SIMPLE IRA) immediately after close. Post-closing the SIMPLE IRA will continue to be maintained by the JV or Company B. I'd appreciate any thoughts on the following:
Thanks for any guidance you can provide. I'm not fluent in SIMPLE IRAs/408(p) and want to ensure I'm not missing something.
Cafeteria Plan Document Eligibility Terms
I'm hoping someone can help me solve a disconnect I'm encountering (or at least I think I'm encountering).
Many off-the-shelf cafeteria plan documents that I see from vendors restrict eligible employees to those eligible for the employer's major medical plan. I understand that for certain components (e.g., pre-taxing medical premiums, health FSA, HSA) initial and continuing cafeteria plan eligibility should be tied to medical plan eligibility.
However, many of those cafeteria plans also cover other benefits, like pre-taxing dental, vision, and other insurance premiums, dependent care FSAs, etc. where the underlying eligibility rules are often different from major medical. This would seem to cause a problem if, for example, an ongoing employee goes from part-time to full-time during an ACA stability period. They may not be eligible for major medical for several more months (or longer), but would often become eligible for other benefits upon converting to full-time status. While the special enrollment rights allow participants to make or change elections, in most documents I have reviewed, the underlying eligibility rules themselves remain the same. In other words, even though the employee would otherwise be allowed to enroll in the other benefits upon converting to full-time, they technically would not be eligible for cafeteria plan participation until they became eligible for major medical.
Am I missing something that would otherwise make a blanket eligibility statement like this appropriate in these situations?
Thanks in advance.
211 whistleblower process
Can anyone out there share their experiences with a 211 whistleblower filing regarding Employee Plans, specifically the timeline.
RMD Start date - checking
I am born on 12/30/1950 and am more than 5% owner.
Is my RBD 4/1/2023?
Is my second RMD due 12/31/2023?
Thanks
Interesr
I retired in May after 26 years in a public school system. I had taken one 6,000 loan out in 2016 due to hardship and then another loan for covid hardship in 2020. They made no mention of an outstanding defaulted loan in 2020. in fact, all of my annuity was with metlife and they split it into two when they sold out to Brighthouse. now they treated these annuity as two separate annuities. It took them months and an OCI involvement to attempt to have my Annuity roll over to another 403B with another company. It took them so long that in fact, a close my account due to no activity. I took an early withdrawal from one account that had the hardship Covid loan.. I was told that Brighthouse account had $28,000 in it. Several times I was told that there was no loan attached to it when I was no longer able to roll over and it had been 10 months of fighting. I asked them to just take a whole lump sum out. The amount I got was $4600, they took out for taxes on the defaulted loan as they used it as a gross amount and they took $17,000 in interest I have more than enough money in both accounts to cover the loan. Once during this entire 10 months, they mention the 17th interest in fact on my quarterly statements the 17,000 is stated as collateral and no interest is written on the metlife. There was collateral of $892.00 and 1100.00 interest. To be the collateral with the over 50% that you needed in order to take out alone in the first place.
Spouse has Individual coverage and FSA through her employer. I have individual and HSA through mine. Bank of America says that is fine?!?
I started a new job in 2023. I have never had an HSA before and that was all that my employer offered. My wife has always had an FSA. Later in 2023, I realized there was an issue with me having HSA and her FSA. I spoke with the custodian (Bank of America) and they keep telling me that since we are on individual plans, then our current arrangement is not an issue. However, everything I see says that her FSA is allowed to be used for a spouse even if they are not on the health care plan. This, by default, means I am not allowed to have an HSA. Is Bank of America just not understanding the situation? I would think they should know, but I am nervous to leave things as is if that means I am stuck with a penalty at tax time.
Thanks for any feedback!
one time irrevocable election to not participate
Does anyone know if there is a time frame in which it needs to be signed? for example even though there is a one year waiting period can this form be provided when the person starts employment or does it need to be within 90 days of their enrollment.
Basic Plan Document vs. Adoption Agreement?
Hello, just a quick question:
The Basic Plan Document has pretty much all iterations of things regarding a plan (in reference: Non-Standardized, Pre-Approved), but the Adoption Agreement is obviously the document that the Plan Sponsor adopts their elected provisions. We came across a nuanced issue today that wasn't outlined in the adoption agreement, but had reference/justification in the Basic Plan Document. Is said-issue able to be permitted by being outlined in the Basic Plan Document, but not the Adoption Agreement? Or does the Adoption Agreement have to explicitly permit every action the Plan Sponsor makes because the Basic Plan Document is "all encompassing"?
Thanks!
Correcting Coverage Failure of ASG Plans Where Aggregation is Prohibited
An ASG has two entities, one very large with few HCEs and many NHCEs, the other very small with a high percentage of HCEs. Each entity sponsors its own 401(k)/401(m) plan (no non-elective contributions). The plans have different testing methods (one prior year, one current year). The high percentage of HCEs means the small plan can’t pass coverage alone, it must be aggregated with the large plan. But aggregation is precluded because the plans have different testing methods. My thought is to file a VCP asking to change the testing year of the small plan to allow aggregation (SECURE 2.0 doesn't allow this demographic failure to be corrected through SCP). If we do that, each plan on its own, and in the aggregate, passes ADP/ACP.
Under those circumstances:
Counting ineligible participants with balance
Employee incorrectly made 401k contributions during year and had a balance at eoy.
This was found after year end and returned timely.
For 5500 count purposes -they are not a participant but they have a balance. But count with balances can't exceed eoy participant count.
So I'm guessing, treat them as a participant for 5500 count purposes.
Employer insurance Medicare eligible
We are a large employer (over 200 employees but only 35 who are medical eligible- most employees are part time). Getting fully insured insurance with BCBS. Got quotes from BCBS for employees and they gave “non Medicare eligible” ratea and “Medicare eligible” rates on the same quote. Medicare eligible were much higher. I thought for large employers they couldn’t charge employees or employers more for being Medicare eligible? If they can charge employer more, does employer eat the cost difference since the employee can’t be charged differently based on age?
If employer pays difference, if employee who is Medicare eligible chooses a buy up plan that would cost employer $500 a month for non Medicare employee but is $1200 above that for Medicare eligible employee does employer have to cover that extra $700 of the buy up plan option also?
What about if middle of year employee turns 65 but they signed up for 1/1 annual coverage under non Medicare eligible rate? Will bcbs flag it at that point and bill employer for the difference?
I can’t figure out why BCBS is quoting the Medicare eligible rate separately when everything online says employer and insurance has to offer same benefits at same price if employer has more than 20 employees.
Thanks in advance for any insight!
Ex-Spouse died before retirement. He was court ordered to hold life insurance policy but didnt.
I have a QDRO and Supplemental Journal Entry that the court ordered my ex to keep a life insurance policy in the amount of 200k. When he died I found out not only that he didn't have the insurance, but that he also used DROP to move part of his retirement funds and I was not notified. His estate executor has denied my claim for the estate funds because the administrator of OP&F says no benefits are payable to me. Only his named beneficiary. What are my recourses? I have not been able to identify an attorney skilled in this space. (Only a few that don't work in Cuyahoga County)
Failure to file 5500 Welfare Medical Plan for failing to address refund allocations in SPD
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If your welfare plan (medical, dental, life insurance, disability, etc) has under 100 participants at the beginning of the year, you are exempt from filing Form 5500 if it is (a) unfunded, (b) fully insured, or (c) a combination of insured and unfunded. But wait, there’s more.
The instructions to the 5500 toss in the following: "see 29CFR 2520.104-20."
If you whip out your copy of the CFR, you will see an "and", as in
"and for which, in the case of an insured plan——
(i) Refunds, to which contributing participants are entitled, are returned to them within three months of receipt by the employer or employee organization, and
(ii) Contributing participants are informed upon entry into the plan of the provisions of the plan concerning the allocation of refunds."
Based on the above rules for insured plans with under 100 participants being exempt from 5500 filing - has anyone run into someone getting fine for failure to file it they failed to address refund allocations? Did MLR requirements from the ACA address this enough that having the refund allocation detail in the SPD is unnecessary to still have the 5500 exemption?
Has anyone ever had this issue come up post MLR/ACA as a road block to small fully insured plan exemption? I ask because I see many small insured plans that are not filing and do NOT have any reference to refunds or refund allocations. Some are claiming the MLR rules negate this since they dictate the refunds.
Has anyone dealt with a third party Employer of Record for hiring residents of another country, such as the UK?
A prospect we have been working with is in the software industry and uses a third-party Employer of Record for a worker that they have in the United Kingdom. This Employer of Record is the legal employer of this worker. Our plans typically use the Non Resident alien exclusion. I'm trying to determine if this arrangement would meet the Non Resident Alien with no US Source income exclusion and the question stops there. If it doesn't, has it been anyone's experience that the arrangement holds up to the IRS standard that this worker is not actually the employee of the plan sponsor?
Improper FSA Payments
Plan sponsor inquiry:
Scenario 1: We learned of a qualified FSA expense incurred and made to a participant after date of employment separation due to lag time between the weekly file feed to FSA TPA with employment status changes and TPA updating their records. While we may sometimes know in advance of upcoming employment separations, that is not always the case. Our TPA is telling us that this is not necessarily a violation of FSA regulations and is comparing it to situations where participants use all their FSA funds prior to separation of employment and complete funding of their election. That doesn't sound right to me. Assuming it's not right, are we required to include the improper payment in the former employee's taxable income subject to withholding and payroll taxes in these scenarios? If yes, how is this done when there are no additional wages to take the withholding/payroll taxes from?
Scenario 2: FSA TPA fails to terminate FSA account upon receipt of file feed with separation date (error is caught several weeks later). TPA will refund us for any improper reimbursements, and is advising that because it is their error, we have no obligation to include improper reimbursements in the former employee's taxable income. Given our understanding that the plan sponsor has ultimate fiduciary responsibility for proper FSA administration, including monitoring the TPA, this, too, doesn't sound right to me.








