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Has anyone heard of Genesys?
Is so, what has been your experience? Do you know of anyone who currently runs this software? If you have converted off of a Gensys product, what was the replacement product?
Thanks!
Actuarial Certification
We are a small company and have a single actuary. He may semi-retire soon and will still review and sign my actuarial work as I am not enrolled. However, I am trying to set up a contingency plan for when (hopefully for him) he wins the lottery and moves to the tropical island of his choice. I want to speak to other actuaries (with my current actuaries' blessing) about fees and processes so I have a succession plan in place as well as an idea of the costs. I've been doing Defined Benefit work for over 20 years now using Relius administration and my current actuary is available to discuss my proficiencies. I should be clear that I am not looking to farm out the Defined Benefit work nor to hire an actuary (we don't have enought DB work for the latter). What I am looking for is have an informal agreement with someone to review my work and certify the Schedule B's that I prepare at some time in the future.
I understand that we do not discuss pricing on this venue. I'm curious what other small firms do for their contingency planning and am inviting any actuary who might do this kind of work (is there a name for it?) to send me a private email. Hopefully that's OK.
Thank you.
opps I forgot sdott@northeastprofessional.com
3 Years of 5500's Filed Under Incorrect EIN
We administer a 401(k) plan that was effective 1/1/2006. Not knowing at the time, we filed using an incorrect EIN for the 2006 - 2008 plan years. We've just tried to file the 2009 return electronically but it got kicked back because the first two digits of the EIN happen to be prohibited digits. We were hoping that, rather than going back and amend 2006, 2007 and 2008, we could simply instead input in the 2009 filing that the EIN has changed and fill out section 4 with the prior (incorrect) information; however the electronic filing system won't accept the incorrect number in section 4, either.
Would it be worth a shot to transmit the 2009 Form 5500 using the correct EIN and then just wait for the government to send letters....or should we just take the time now and amend? Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Signing 5500 on behalf of clients
Under the DOL's new procedures that allow the TPA's to sign the 5500 on their behalf (i.e., they fax us the manually signed copy, etc), how are you completing the signature line? Are you leaving the actual plan administrators name, and then entering the TPA credentials (which obviously don't match the name), or are you entering the TPA credentials AND the corresponding TPA name as plan administrator?
As far as I can tell, this is not addressed anywhere...
P-215 EFAST2 Warning Plan Termination
I received a P-215 EFAST2 error. This is a health and welfare plan that is funded out of employer assets. The plan terminated (the final return box was checked) and the final participant count was 0. EFAST2 is generating an error saying,
"Warning: Form 5500, Line B (Final Return/Report) is checked, however the criteria for termination have not been met. Review the instructions for filing a final return."
There are no other schedules included in the filing. Does anyone have a clue why I am receiving this warning. The filing software did not display any errors/warnings prior to the submission.
Control Group Issues
We have a client that is an 80% owner of another company (the company was acquired in mid 2007). The two companies have separate plans. For plan years 2007 and 2008 no combined testing is needed because of the transition rule but for 2009 we must combine the two plans and test for coverage. The problem is that the two plans have different eligible requirements and different employer contributions. Our client eligibility is age 21 and 3 months of service while the other plan's eligibility is age 18 and one year of service. Also, our client's plan has a 3% Safe Harbor Non-Elective while the other plan has a matching contribution of 50% up to 3% of compensation. My question is for combined testing purposes which eligibility requirements should be used?
What is the statute of limitations for correcting safe harbor contributions?
An employer thought he could apply the plan's 2 year waiting period for PS contributions to safe harbor contributions. Several years went by before the waiting period error was discovered. The ER is willing to go back some number of years, but we're wondering if a statute of limitations might apply. Documentation to determine when, who, how much, etc. probably isn't available going back more than 3 years.
More Relius/EFAST Validation Error Message Issues
Below is the validation error report on a 2009 SB that we consider correct and final (sorry I lost the column formatting). The items in bold (my emphasis) are of concern to us.
Questions:
1. Do all validation "errors" result in filing rejections?
2. Anybody else having a problem with #14? Our entry is correct but we cannot get rid of the validation error.
3. Are the other messages harmless?
Any help/comments on these items would be appreciated.
Form Rpt Pg# Rec# Fld# On/Near Line# Message
2009 5500 Sch. SB 42 6 Warning - (DOL I-155SB) The
Actuary (Name), Firm Name
and Signature Date must be
provided on Schedule SB.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 43 6 Warning - (DOL I-158SB) A
copy of the signed Schedule
SB must be attached in PDF
format when a Schedule SB is
provided.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 82 14 Warning - (DOL B-686SB)
Line 14 must equal Line 2(b)
minus the sum of Lines 13(a)
and 13(b) divided by Line
3(d)(2) when Line 4 is not
checked.2009 5500 Sch. SB 165 22 Warning - (DOL B-691SB) The
Weighted Average Retirement
Age needs to be attached
when line 22 has a value.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 169 24 Warning - (DOL I-127SB) The
'Non Prescribed Actuarial
Assumption' needs to be
attached when Line 24 is
marked Yes.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 171 25 Warning - (DOL I-128SB) The
'Method Change' attachment
needs to be attached when
Line 25 is marked Yes.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 173 26 Error - (DOL I-120SB) The
Schedule of Active Participant
Data must be attached when
Line 26 is marked Yes.
2009 5500 Sch. SB 180 32a Error - (DOL I-132SB) The
'Schedule of Shortfall
Amortization Bases' needs to
be attached when Lines 32a or
32b has a value greater than 0.
< 8 > validation errors/warnings were reported
Hedge Fund - Qualifying?
Retirement plan is pooled and assets are with Charles Schwab & Co. Included on the Schwab statement are some hedge funds which do not appear to be registered under Investment Company Act.
Are the hedge funds considered 'held' by a broker-dealer and therefore qualifying or no?
Thanks.
Material change in AFTAP?
Calendar year plan, valuation date on January 1. The 2009 AFTAP was originally certified as 78% in September 2009 (2008 AFTAP had been above 90%, so deemed rate above 80%). Consideration is being given to revising the January 1, 2009 valuation now to use the October 2008 full yield curve (would eliminate need for any further 2009 contributions). Smallish plan with no benefit commencements since before the September 2009 AFTAP certification. The only benefit form possibly subject to Section 436 is a full cash refund form. The revised valuation for 2009 would change the 2009 AFTAP to just over 90%. A range certification for 2010 was issued at the end of March 2010 indicating that the 2010 AFTAP would be between 80% and 100%. Presume that suitable notices were distributed in 2009 after the September AFTAP certification (indicating that restrictions could apply to the full cash refund form) and after the March 2010 range certification (indicating that the restrictions no longer applied). The 2009 Schedule SB has not been prepared yet.
Is there any bar now to the sponsor electing to use the October 2008 full yield curve for the January 1, 2009 valuation? They would be doing so expecting to elect to go back to the normal three-tier segment rates as of January 1, 2010. No restrictions are believed to apply with respect to IRS consent, for either election.
POP Plan
Greetings:
I am thrilled to have found this board as I have been getting conflicting advice from my broker and a couple of attorneys.
MY company just realized, because of another issue that came up, that we should have had a POP plan in place. The reason this came up is that we were exploring whether we could waive the employee contribution for a particular employee and in doing the research found that there was no plan document to guide us.
So we are now trying to get this resolved and get the plan document set up. However, there is still the issue of whether we can waive the contribution for this employee. An attorney told me we could so long as the plan doc allowed for it and the person was not an HCE and the company who administers our FSA who is now going to set up the POP for us says we cannot.
We are a nonprofit with 14 employees.
Thanks for any guidance.
Issues with Mutliple Employer 401K Plans?
Any concerns we should be aware of about joining a MEP 401K plan? It purports to take away all fiduciary liability - I don't buy that. For example, if it is an imprudent decision to pick them as provider - we would have fiduciary duty regarding that choice.... Other than that - any other concerns regarding joining one? Issues with termination? Issues with other employers screwing up? Any thoughts?
thanks
Prohibited Transaction or Ordinary Loan Default?
Participant was a 31% partner in a law firm in 2009, and took out a retirement plan loan while employed. At the end of 2009 he left the firm and (as often happens) had the best of intentions to continue making payments on his outstanding loan in order to avoid a distributable event.
He made payments through January 2010, and then stopped. He was notified in May that his loan would be in default effective June 30 unless he brought his payments current. He made a few token loan payments, but did not even remotely correct, and his loan was in default effective June 30, 2010.
Because he was a partner in the firm at the time the loan was taken, and under lookback rules would be considered a 5% owner in 2010, would his default fall under the prohibited transaction rules, or, because he was a terminated employee at the time he went into default would this default be treated in the same manner any ordinary employee's loan default would be treated?
Master Trust
Two plans participate in a Master Trust. Each plan has a 5500 filing obligation, as does the Master Trust. For simplicity sake, let's assume ALL plan assets are invested in the Master Trust.
How should fees be reported? Are all the fees reflected on ONLY the master trust filing's Schedule H and Schedule C? This would mean that, for the individual plans, only beginning balance, ending balance and "Net investment gain/loss from the Master Trust". This net gain/loss would take into account all fees, so the 5500's (Sch H and Sch C) for the individual plans themselves would not reflect any fees. Actually, a Schedule C would not even be required to be filed for individual plans. Is this correct? Thanks for your help!!
Hardship Distribution
I was just told by the investment advisor on a 401(k) plan, that our mutual client (without first consulting me), distributed $6,000 from their 401(k) plan to a plan participant in the form of a hardship distribtion. The plan only allows for hardship distributions in the amount of accumulated salary deferrals without earnings. Given this fact, the maximum allowable distribution should have been in the range of about $4,500. This excess distribution was made at the beginning of this month.
What are the implications of this excess distribution to the plan?
What are the implications to the participant?
What is the best way to correct this problem?
Definition of Participant Directed Plan
If a 401(k) Plan offers certificates of deposit as the sole investment in the plan and then the plan sponsor goes public and elects to establish a stock fund which allows participants to make a one-time election to purchase stock in the public offering -- is the plan a "participant directed plan"? I believe the question goes to the definition of the "exercise of control" - does the one time election rise to the level of "exercising control"?
Prohibited Transaction or Ordinary Loan Default?
Participant was a 31% partner in a law firm in 2009, and took out a retirement plan loan while employed. At the end of 2009 he left the firm and (as often happens) had the best of intentions to continue making payments on his outstanding loan in order to avoid a distributable event.
He made payments through January 2010, and then stopped. He was notified in May that his loan would be in default effective June 30 unless he brought his payments current. He made a few token loan payments, but did not even remotely correct, and his loan was in default effective June 30, 2010.
Because he was a partner in the firm at the time the loan was taken, and under lookback rules would be considered a 5% owner in 2010, would his default fall under the prohibited transaction rules, or, because he was a terminated employee at the time he went into default would this default be treated in the same manner any ordinary employee's loan default would be treated?
Retro amendment for early inclusion
If you retroactively amend a plan to include employees who entered the plan to early which is permitted under the self correction program, do you need to file with the IRS if the plan is on a pre-approved prototype?
It seems as if you have already done self correction via the amendment, why submit to IRS?
SH Match Termination
Employer wishes to terminate their SH Match Plan. Would the 30 day notice requirement still apply? I can't see where the proposed regs or other guidance would eliminate the notice requirement. I can understand where the 30 day notice requirement would give participants time to change their deferral election if the plan were to continue as a non-SH, but this action would not apply in a plan termination. If there's relief, I can't see it.
ESOP Disclosure to Participants
We have an ESOP that has been in effect for over ten years. My question is - as a participant in our company ESOP , am I entited to see a list of all participants and the number of ESOP shares/stocks, etc that they each have ? Thanks for the help.





