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    Can We Amend?

    Guest 1881
    By Guest 1881,

    Plan agreed (with union) to provide a 2% nonelective contribution for 2008. Plan was not amended by 12/31/08. Plan would now like to make the contribution. Can we amend the plan now (given that it is before the sponsor's tax filing deadline and had the plan been amended last year, the contribution would be timely) and make the contribution?

    Thanks


    1096's on red or white paper

    Jim Chad
    By Jim Chad,

    Putting 1096's on paper with red ink, is not a big bother, but it would be easier to print them on white paper using all black ink.

    I have heard of people that have never bothered getting the paper with the red ink and never had a problem.

    Can anyone tell me anything about this?

    Is the paper with red ink, required or preferred or...?


    Monthly Yield Curve tables

    david rigby
    By david rigby,

    http://www.irs.gov/retirement/article/0,,id=123231,00.html

    Click on "Monthly Yield Curve Tables". The IRS has finally provided these in spreadsheet format!


    Direct rollover by non-spouse benficiary

    SMB
    By SMB,

    Having my first "encounter" with a direct rollover to a non-spouse beneficiary and want to make sure I correctly understand the rules and process (have my doubts).

    Facts: Profit Sharing Plan participant died in September, 2008 at age 68 (i.e., before her required beginning date for required minimum distributions). No spouse. Daughter is the participant's "designated beneficiary" and is electing to have the death benefit distributed as an direct rollover to an "inherited IRA" in 2009.

    Questions:

    1. Must a required minimum distribution be made to the daughter from the Plan for 2009 (i.e., the 2009 RMD amount may NOT be rolled over to the inherited IRA)?

    2. If the answer to 1. is "Yes" - is this RMD based on the daughter's attained age in 2009 and her Table 1 - Single Life Expectancy factor?

    3. If the answers to 1. & 2. are "Yes", is the RMD for 2010 (from the inherited IRA) based on the daughter's Table 1 - Single Life Expectancy factor for 2009 minus 1?

    Am I anywhere close to understanding this correctly? Any there other "aspects/pitfalls" of which I need to be aware?

    Thanks!


    political subdivision of a county

    mariemonroe
    By mariemonroe,

    Eligible employers for 457(b) purposes are:

    457(e)(1)(A): a State, political subdivision of a State, and any agency or instrumentality of a State or political subdivision of a State, and

    457(e)(1)(B): any other organization (other than a governmental unit) exempt from tax under this subtitle.

    My client is a tax exempt organization and also has an attorney general letter from our state attorney general opining that client is a "political subdivision of ____ County" for purposes of local law.

    I know my client is an eligible employer, but I don't know which one.

    Any ideas?


    Coverage

    Guest Sieve
    By Guest Sieve,

    Does the 1+-year free pass for coverage testing resuting from a merger/acquisition (IRC Section 410(b)(6)© and Treas. Reg. Section 1.410(b)-2(f)) apply to the purchase of assets--i.e., Entity X buys the assets of unrelated Entity Y, including the plan, and all Entity Y employees move over to Entity X--where there is no resulting controlled group being formed? The regs seem to indicate "Yes" (last sentence of -2(f)), but I can't get that result from the Code provisions (which require that "a person becomes, or ceases to be, a member of [a controlled group] . . .").


    Datair Question

    Andy the Actuary
    By Andy the Actuary,

    An actuarial report prepared using the Datair system shows a TNC for a DB plan that has been frozen since the 1990s. Why would this be? Would they be measuring the actuarial increase to late retirees as a change in accrued benefits? This would make some sense, though the assumption page does not indicate there is a retirement delay for those actives over the normal retirement age on the valuation date. I.e., the assumption would be they retire immediately.


    Document Provisions.

    Guest Kevin1
    By Guest Kevin1,

    I received a potential take over plan. In looking at it: 1) There is an insurance policy in effect for one of the two eligible HCEs. No other participant has a policy in force. 2) In looking at the document there is nothing about insurance except that the trustees can purchase any contract from an insurer. They also define an insurer. That's all.

    In contacting the prior administrator she said the plan was previously a Money Purchase Pension Plan and that when it was converted to a Profit Sharing Plan they ceased allowing new insurance policies. There are a couple of employees hired in 1981 and 1999. I'm unsure if they were even offered insurance under the old plan. Clearly on one else has been offered insurance coverage. She also said there were no other provisions relating to insurance other than the plan allows the trustees to invest monies any way they want.

    She wasn't concerned with only one HCE having a particular benefit under the plan or that no one else had. THis is because of their "not allowing new policies".

    My document spells out insurance in detail to include "authorizing" the purchase of insurance.

    I think there is a benefits, right & features issue. I don't think their not allowing new policies when the plan was converted to a PS plan carries much weight.

    Where is the requirement that the plan give detail on insurance purchase? Is there a listing of required document provisions out there? On an IRS site, or?

    Your thoughts.


    Combined Plans - Cross Testing, Permitted Disparity

    Gary
    By Gary,

    I have a combined DB/DC plan.

    I am in the process of researching these items, but wanted to get the ball rolling on my questions anyway.

    1. My understanding is that only one of the two plans can apply permitted disparity in the non discrimination testing?

    2. Let's say we apply permitted disparity to the DC plan and that we are testing the combined plans on the accrual method, i.e. cross testing the DC allocation. Is permitted disparity first computed and then followed by conversion to accrual rates OR is conversion to accrual rate done and then permitted disparity applied? I perceive that it is the former.

    Thank you.


    Can You Split a Loan Before Rollover to New 401(k) Plan

    rocknrolls2
    By rocknrolls2,

    Company M maintains a 401(k) plan that contains a number of features, including after-tax contributions and Roth 401(k) contributions. Company T participates in Company M's 401(k) plan. M has reached agreement with Company U to sell the stock of Company T. U will establish a new 401(k) plan but it will not have after-tax contributions or Roth 401(k) contributions. U will enable Company T employees to roll over their account balances in Company M's 401(k) plan other than after-tax contributions, Roth 401(k) contributions and that portion of outstanding plan loans containing after-tax contributions and/or Roth 401(k) contributions. Can M divide the loan into two: one portion including the portion of the loan attributable to contributions other than after-tax contributions and Roth 401(k) contributions and the other loan being the portion of the loan attributable to after-tax contributions and Roth 401(k) contributions? Why or why not?


    2008 Schedule SB Instructions?

    carrots
    By carrots,

    Do we have the 2008 Schedule SB instructions yet?

    Question 21b, for example, asks for the code for the Applicable month for the Segment rates lookback - October (3 months) in this case.

    Anyone know the code?


    Transitioanl Segment Rates for Valuation

    flosfur
    By flosfur,

    I thought the whole idea of a transitional rule is to lessen the impact of new laws/regulations.

    With that in mind, I thought the transitional segment rates would produce lower required contributions. But that is not to happening in general because looking at the 2008 rates, the 2nd & 3rd segments are about equal to or less than the regular rates!

    Needless to say, transitional rates produce higher FT & TNC for a benefit stream starting after 5 years than the regular segment rates!

    Was this intended or is there something wrong with the published transitional 2nd & 3rd segment rates or have copied them down wrong?


    WRERA You Thinking the Same Way I Am?

    Andy the Actuary
    By Andy the Actuary,

    WRERA applies as if part of PPA. So, the following question arises. Actuary "A" performs the 2008 actuarial valuation and AFTAP certifications of a January 1, 2008 valuation for a calendar year plan as 90% and got all this done by March 31. Actuary "A" couldn't not take it any more and retired suddenly but is still around to bridge transition and clean up loose ends. Actuary "B" was retained going forward.

    The issue is why should the client have to pay to redo 2008 valuation [though most of the heavy lifting (e.g., determination of Funding Target) has been done? The result of redooing the valuation is that the employer will have made excess contributions since the redoo will reduce the 2008 minimum. So, why not let the sleeping dogs lie, have the employer elect not to redo the valuation [the election feels good but there is no legal basis], let Actuary "A" just sign the 2008 SB, and then Actuary "B" recognizes the 92% funding target when he/she determines the 2008 amortization charge and remaining base in 2009?

    How should Actuary "B" proceed? Please vote.


    Excess contribution has been rolled over - now what?

    Guest WashThisCar
    By Guest WashThisCar,

    Participant A was 52 years old in 2008, worked for 2 companies, and contributed more than the 2008 limit of $15,500 plus the $5,000 catch up allowed. The contributions to the first employer's 401k plan have been rolled into a Rollover IRA account. The Rollover IRA owner (i.e. participant A) can take a distribution from the Rollover IRA, but how should the distribution be coded for tax purposes?

    I see that IRS Publication 525 says to add the excess to the W-2 wages on the tax return, but not sure how to code the Rollover IRA distribution.


    Excess Deferral or Catch-up Contribution

    rocknrolls2
    By rocknrolls2,

    Participant A is 49 years old in 2008 and makes an excess deferral to Plan X. A reports the excess deferral to the sponsor of Plan X in early 2009, the year in which he will attain age 50. Can the employer simply recharacterize this amount as a catch-up contribution or must it refund the amount as an excess deferral?


    2008 Valuation

    goldtpa
    By goldtpa,

    Can anyone confirm the fact that Congress is thinking about changing how DBs value assets for EOY 08 valuations, 09 valuations and for AFTAPs?

    Thanks


    Incorrect Withholding at IRA Withdrawal

    Guest just started...
    By Guest just started...,

    Here's a situation I'm currently working with.

    An individual with an IRA through a bank made a withhdrawal in late 2008. The individual requested that $2200 be withheld. Instead, due to a bank typo, only $200 was withheld.

    What options does the bank have to correct this?

    Can the individual pay the bank back the 2000 to have that count as withholding and then have the bank issue a corrected 1099-R?

    thanks!


    401(k) & match comp dont seem to correlate

    Guest SuzieQNEC
    By Guest SuzieQNEC,

    I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but was hoping to get a second opinion.

    Match formula is 100% of 401(k) up to 6% of compensation.

    Definition of compensation is standard W-2 comp.

    Payroll takes 401(k) from all pay except for a special bonus at the end of the year which is included in W-2.

    Therefore, the 6% cap on the match is based on pay which includes the bonus, even though no 401(k) was taken from it.

    Sound right?

    Pay used for 401(k) 100000

    401(k) - 8% 8000

    Bonus 20000

    Total Pay 120000

    Match 7200 (which appears to be 7.2% of pay used for 401(k)


    Opt-Out Notice...Huh?

    Guest dhall
    By Guest dhall,

    Has anyone ever heard of an opt-out notice that requires a participant's signature, stating that such participant needed to "opt-out" if they didn't want to invest OUTSIDE of the plan?


    WRERA - Participant Wants to take RMD

    Guest ResearchGirl
    By Guest ResearchGirl,

    Does WRERA prohibit a participant from taking his 2009 RMD? RMD's are the only exception to lump-sum distributions in a lot of the plan documents I handle and I can't imagine telling retired participants they have to take $25,000 or nothing instead of the $1,000 they want. And can a participant still elect not to have the 10% (not 20% mandatory) Federal Taxes withheld?


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