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- Joyce Kahn (Manager of the EPCRS Program) said that she has only come across one egregious failure for which the IRS did not approve correction. That means either that there are not any really bad acts out there, or that the really bad actors don't come in under EPCRS, or that the EPCRS staff is pretty lenient. The surprise, to me, was that Joyce said it.
- Joyce took the position that if a safe harbor plan fails (for example, if the safe harbor contribution is not made within 12 months after the end of the plan year), then the natural consequence contained in the regs--i.e., that the plan no longer is a safe harbor and must pass ADP--does not apply, and to correct you must make the late SH contribution (with interest). I think what she meant is that you can't rely on passing ADP if you fail to make the safe harbor contribution timely, because you would simply get out from under the SH contribution obligation without following proper procedures (such as in the "maybe"--supplemental notice--non-elective SH contribution situation). I would suspect, however, that if failure to timely make the SH contribution resulted in failure of the ADP, and correction of that ADP failure under VCP would give the NHCEs more than making the SH contribution would give them, then she would require that the failed ADP test be corrected rather than that the SH contribution be made.
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Qualified Reservist Distribution
Does anyone have a client that intends on implementing this provision for health fsas under the HEART Act?
If yes, how does the money get distributed from the plan? Also, an employee that is called to active duty is entitled to all or a portion of the balance in the employee's account - does this mean the amount contributed to date, minus any reimbursements, or the entire amount elected for the year?
Any thoughts/guidance is appreciated - thanks.
Alternate Payee dies before distribution and w/o naming a beneficiary
We have a situation where we have a QDRO, the alternate payee has died and did not name a beneficiary. In paying the benefits due the AP, do we just pay to the AP's estate (which is what we do if a participant does not name a beneficiary and has no spouse, etc.)?
2008 Assets For PBGC Premium Calculation
Let's stick to a calendar year plan with January 1 valuation date for discussion.
It is clear that 2007 contributions made in 2008 are included in plan assets for determining the UVB. It is also clear that after 2008, prior year accrued contributions must be discounted to January 1. What is unclear (as my evidence will show) is whether or not 2007 contributions made in 2008 are discounted back to January 1, 2008.
ASPPA (No. 8-10) says "no." More important, instructions for completing the PBGC forms explicitly say "No" ("For Premium Payment years beginning in 2008, such prior year contribution are included without discounting"). Now, technical releases from both Deloitte and JP Morgan say "Yes." More important, I do not see in PBGC regs. that there is a discount exclusion for 2008.
Frankly, an exclusion for 2008 seems totally inconsistent with how the PBGC has historically treated accrued contributions for premium calculation purposes. On the other hand, the PBGC may be serving grace to those end-of-year valuations.
Will someone with fresh batteries in his flashlight please shed some light on this dilemma?
ER Match/BRF Issue
401(k) plan has a match formula of 100% of salary deferral up to 2% of compensation; however, only those who defer at least 4% of compensation are eligible for the match.
There is a potenital BRF issue, but I'm not sure how to test for current availability.
Two possibilities come to mind:
1) Test based on the fact that everyone had the ability to defer at least 4% of their compensation. Therefore, the matching formula was available to everyone, even if they did not defer at least 4%.
2)Test based on the deferral percentages for each participant. Only those who deferred at least 4% were eligible for the match, so they are the only ones benefiting for the availability test.
Any thoughts or other ideas?
Thanks!
SUB administrators
Does anyone know of a third party we could outsource this to? We are looking at this type of plan as alternative to severance plan.
Looking for Software
We are looking for new defined contribution health plan software (including HSAs, HRAs, and even FSAs). Does anyone have any thoughts/experiences/recommendations they are willing share?
permanent disability
Can someone on disability withdraw from their 401(k)?
New EPCRS
Did anyone watch the ALI-ABA seminar Monday (8/25) discussing the new EPCRS? If so, what surprises did you take away aside from these:
Anyone else have any comments, surprises, insights from watching the seminar--either about the seminar itself or about the new EPCRS--that they want to share? (I haven't gone through all of the new EPCRS yet, but it apparently is much more friendly and has relaxed some requirements and added some new corrections.)
2010 or late?
IDP DBPP cycle E, received a letter in 2003, but it did not cover EGTRRA. Do I have until 2010 or did I miss a submission deadline already?
ADP Test for Prevailing Wage Plan
We have a 401(k) Plan that consists of Pre-Tax deferrals, Roth deferrals, Wage Rate contributions, and a 4% Match (note: the match is only allocated to non-prevailing wage participants). The plan document states that "all matching contributions are QMAC's".
It is my understanding that we can include up to 10% of each participant's Wage Rate contributions in the ADP test pursuant to 1.401(k)-2(6)(iv)(D); however, in addition to this, are we permitted to include the 4% match / QMAC in the ADP test?
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
COBRA Vendor
My outsourcing vendor has gone pretty far into a selection process and identified this company as the preferred vendor. Problem is we've never heard of them before and have conducted a few COBRA RFPs in the past 15 years.
Has anyone heard of this COBRA vendor? If so, can you please provide some high-level information on them -- the good, the bad and the ugly would be helpful.
Thank you.
Rollover IRA
You can rollover an contributory IRA to a 401(k) Plan - but can you rollover a rollover IRA from a qualified plan to another qualified plan?
Thanks
Prevailing Wage Plan - Due Date of Deposits
Is the due date of wage rate contributions to a Prevailing Wage Plan on or before the extended due date of the company's tax return (e.g., September 15th for a calendar year corp) or is there a rule that says the deposits must be made on an ongoing basis within a few days of each payroll (like with 401(k) deferrals)?
Thanks!
Dual eligibility on 5 year old plan
One doctor has a corp and a 5 year old 401(k) Plan with the usual 21 and 1 year and dual entry dates.
New doctor will start a corp and the 2 corps will form a partnership. They would like the new EGTRRA document to waive eligibility requirements for the doctor and his wife by waiving requirements for anyone employed on or before October 1, 2008.
How exactly would this work? What would we do with the nurse hired 2-01-08. Would we just let her in on October 1st or is there something else we would have to do for her? How about the receptionist hired November of 2007?
I have read that this is a Benefit, right or feature that must be tested for coverage.
On 12-31-08 testing:
Who is benefiting?
Who is not benefiting?
Who is excludable?
Historial lump sum auto-distributions (looking for 2001)
(Behind the scenes I am trying to figure out why the prior HR person didn't auto-distribute to a terminated person even though she wrote him a letter stating that she would do so if she didn't get the forms returned by October 2001. His balance at 3/31/01 was approximately $2700 and there were no future contributions. She took this language directly from a letter from the plan recordkeeper as they were terminating the plan. His money was left in the plan until he requested a distribution in 2006 -- by 06, his balance was almost $4,000).
I remember that the amount that could be auto-distributed out to a terminated employee changed, but I can't remember when or by how much. It added on a chance to rollover to an IRA between two amounts also. Is there anyone out here that remembers where that amount stood in 2001? And when the change occurred?
I know sometimes it can be dependent on the plan, but I am mostly looking for what the IRS/DOL would have allowed in 2001 to see if that is the possible answer to why the scenario above occurred.
Unfortunately I was out of the 401k side of the business from 1999 to 2005.
TPA's for small groups
This is a TPA question for the 50-100 employee groups. Does anyone know of any good TPA's that go down to 50 lives & operates in the Philadelphia area?
Thanks
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401k SH non-elective contribution
If a 401k safe harbor plan calls for 3%-of-pay, non-elective employer contribution and employer also makes non-matching, profit sharing contributions, would those that receive the 401k safe harbor non-elective 3% but no part of the profit sharing contributions be considered as 'benefiting' for purposes of minimum coverage of non-matching employer contributions?
Rolling eligibility - an option?
Discussions in other posts have indicated broad interest exists for funding new SEP plans immediately for all existing employees, while using the maximum service requirement for future employees. Some prototypes allow this (ie, Schwab), but 5305-SEP does not specifically do so.
We have seen discussions of "rolling eligibility", "dual eligibility", potential amendment techniques, possible determination of discrimination, etc. Some of the posts appear to exhibit at least minor disagreement, illustrating the confusion that exists. A comprehensive example might help resolve some of the uncertainty while also providing a means to illustrate where problems can or actually do occur.
Does the following scenario create any issues, whatever? It includes some wrinkles to throw in additional possibilities for adverse consequences.
Company desires to launch an SEP. The owners want to fund it in the first year for current owners and employees, but use a 3 year wait for future employees. All current employees and owners have at least one year of service in prior years. Form 5305-SEP is used. No PLR is sought.
1. Year 1:
a. Company adopts plan early in year with a 3 year service election.
b. Company realizes later, before any contributions occur, the plan cannot be funded for anyone for three years.
c. Plan is amended to provide a 1 yr service requirement.
d. Plan is funded. There were no new hires this year. Every employee is eligible and receives a contrib.
2. Year 2:
a. Plan is amended to require a 3 year service period.
b. The plan is not funded this year, to avoid potential discrimination if a new employee were to be hired.
c. A new employee -IS- hired this year, sometime after the amendment requiring 3 years of service is made.
3. Year 3:
a. Plan is funded using same percentage for all eligible employees (those having 3 prior years of service).
All employees who received a contrib in year 1 get a contrib. The employee hired in yr 2 does not.
This scenario seems to embody all of the cautions expressed in other posts. No discrimination appears to have occurred because all HCEs met the originally established 3 year service requirement during every year when contribs actually occurred, except during year 1 which itself seems perfectly valid. In year 3, all participants including owners had at least three years of prior service (year 1, year 2, and the year before the plan was established).
Does this scenario avoid all possible adverse consequences? If not, where does a problem occur and is it potential or real?
Note that this example does, however, omit all contributions in one year. Thus, if completely valid, it does not fully satisfy every case that can occur.
employee discounts
We have a client who gives its employees and key executive retirees an employee discount. I can't seem to find a reason why the employee discounts to the specified employees would not be considered nonqualified deferred compensation, and therefore subject to 409A. Does anyone have any guidance on 409A's application to employee discounts? Thanks in advance!
Assignment of Death Benefits
Have a DB plan where spouse is 51% beneficiary and children from a prior marriage together are 49% beneficiaries.
The participant dies.
As part of a settlement agreement, the kids are assigning their 49% to the spouse.
ERISA's Anti-alienation clause usually deals with creditors. What about the assignment from one beneficiary to another?





