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The above discussion ended before the year-end new plan document setup rush, so I am wondering if any new insight is out there...?

Recap:

I'd like to just start using the new stuff since the PPA required no amendment until 2009, but...

We have a prospective client that looks like an ASG. A podiatrist has his own practice and also owns 10% of a surgical center, where he performs a large portion of his surgerys. Based on all facts we have received, the independent practice is an A-Org and the surgical center is the FSO, creating an A-Org ASG.

This prospects accountant has indicated to them that the ASG rules don't apply to surgical centers because the minimal ownership. Has anyone heard of this view?

Ultimately, it is the clients responsibility to make the correct determination, but this accountants opinion has made me curious...

Thoughts?

Can anyone direct me to any written guidance, either formal or informal, that requires a frozen plan to be funded on a unit credit basis? Thank you.

Tell me if I am wrong about a calendar year plan. If the 2007 and 2008 AFTAP are not certified, then there are no distribution restrictions until 4/1/2008 under this special rule this year. So, it's a potential advantage to not certifying to the 2007 AFTAP too soon. Of course if the numbers are available and it's clearly underfunded but it's just that no actual certification has been signed, anyone see that as a problem? It seems strange that there is an advantage to burying your head in the sand.

Good Morning:

Recently, our company, who is on an October to October Plan year cycle, began offering the HSA, of which I signed up for - even though I had a pending baby due. The baby was born 21 December.

This month (Feb.) I have noticed the Blue Cross "restarted" my deductible accumulation (set at 5400.00) as of 01 January back to zero, wiping away any amounts I paid during the first three months of the plan year. However, it was explained by the company that once we fill out a form and turn it in with our EOBs, any deductible amounts accrued thus far would be carried over to the next calendar year, and we could complete our plan year. However, it appears that is not so, at least according to the health care provider.

Can someone give me some guidance on the IRS rules. It is a shock that after having a baby and obviously meeting my 5400.00 deductible, that that deductible was only good for 3 months - now I have to start over??!!?? This will make my plan year cost $10,800.00. How can this be??

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Our volume submitter cross-tested DC plans have a resolution and a Gateway amendment (signed as late as 10-14-2003). We have been placing that same language (it has been cut and pasted) at the end of the vol sub basic document ever since. We just talked to another practitioner who used the (same provider for their vol sub doc). They do not have any gateway amendments in place for plans that were setup before 2005 (and many of them are cross-tested plans). What's the story regarding these gateway amendments for these vol sub documents?

An employee of an LLP who is participating in the health FSA (11/1 plan year) became a partner on 2/1/08. The loss of eligibility to participate would result in his termination from the FSA as of 2/1. Can the employee COBRA his FSA (participants are eligible to continue the benefit up to the last day of the plan year, after-tax) and what are the tax implications if the employee is reimbursed the entire balance (non-taxable)?

Does anyone know of a report in RA 12 that reports Roth separate from Pretax or else tags the number with and * signifying footnote or an R signifying Roth?

I am wondering if there are any kinds of reports. Participant statements, account summary, contribution report or anything else?

We are attempting to duplicate the 2007 Mortality tables, which were published in the "Updated Mortality Tables for Determining Current Liability" regulations around 2/2/2007. We are matching qx values for most ages but are slightly off for ages between 41 and 49 and between 71 and 79, which is where the Non-annuitant and Annuitant tables are smoothed. Has anyone been able to match these factors?

An example may help:

Male age 76

qx from published table =.034523

qx per our calculation below =.034489

Non-annuitant qx (using smoothed transition since no actual non-annuitant qx at age 76)

.030710 = .009922 + (.064368 - .009922) x 21/55 (smooth transition discussed in proposed regs on Mortality Tables dated 5/29/2007)

(.064368 is age 80 annuitant qx and .009922 is age 70 non-annuitant qx from published table)

Annuitant qx

.042169 from published table

Non-annuitant qx (projected to 2007)

.022520 = .030710 x (1-.014)^22 (.014 is from projection Scale AA for 76 year old male, 22 years from 2000 to 2007 plus 15)

Annuitant qx (projected to 2007)

.034615 = .042169 x (1-.014)^14 (.014 is from projection Scale AA for 76 year old male, 14 years from 2000 to 2007 plus 7)

Calculated qx formula

.034489 = .022520 x (1-.9896) + .034615 x .9896

(98.96% of those age 76 are annuitants using weighting factors from "Updated Mortality Tables for Determining Current Liability" proposed regulations on 12/2/2005)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I just took over administration of a Plan that needs an audit for last year (PYE June 30, 2007) for the first time. We may not be able to get all the information the CPA's need for the audit. One thing that seems no on has a copy is the 1099s for 2006. Without them the auditor says they cannot confirm that money was paid out of the Plan to thes 6 participants.

1, Does anyone have any suggestions about how we can show that money out of pooled investments were paid to Participants, other than cancelled checks?

2. What are the options if an audit cannot be completed?

I am new to QDROs and would be grateful for any insights.

Before Worker retired, a DRO was submitted to his plan on behalf of his ex-wife. The Plan determined that it was not a QDRO.

Worker retires, begins pay status. Plan Administrator notifies ex-wife that appropriate amounts would be segregated and withheld for up to 18 months or until a QDRO is received, or the amounts would go to Worker. Nearly two years pass and Segregated amounts are released by the plan to Worker.

Three months later, State Court Judge says that Worker must surrender the segregated amounts which were paid to Worker and give them to his ex-wife.

Is this correct?

Does anyone have familiarity with the exemption from FICA tax under 3121(a)(2)© for employer paid life insurance (other than group term life insurance over 50,000) where the benefit is available to employees in general or to a class of employees.

For example where a split dollar life insurance program is implemented for employees who are senior vice presidents and above with x years of service, this would seem to be a class of employees. Does anyone see why the exemption from FICA tax would not apply to the amount imputed into income as the economic benefit to employees or retirees who hold policies?

We converted a DB to CB (1999) and provided a transition benefit for those over 45 and 10 years service. The transition was to offset formula differences for those people close to early retirement, which under the old plan started at age 55. At age 55, the transition is credited to their account balance.

1. Is this transition benefit considered a protected retirement subsidy since it would continue after age 65 in an annuity?

2. Can this transition benefit be contingent upon being an employed participant at attainment of age 55?

3. If the transition can be made dependent upon being employed at attainment of age 55 and the participant leaves employment as part of partial termination at age 52 and is eligible to return to the plan if rehired for 5 years, and does not take distribution until after 55, would we be required to provide the transition benefit even if he is not rehired?

We only have a few people in this position but we want to do it correctly. It seems there have have been rulings close but not specific to addressing this issue.

Added 2/15/2008 Maybe in light of the 2008-7 Revenue Ruling we should be revisiting the transition benefit as not being allowed due to backloading violation by having it accrued all at age 55, rather than each year up to age 55 when it would fully accrue. AS it now stands, age 55 employees see an increase in benefit exceeding 50% of their account value. We are awaiting a determination letter on the plan as of the hold for several years.

A profit sharing 401(k) plan has an option for participants to defer under 401(k) - based on all taxable W-2 wages. The plan also has a CODA option, which allows participants to take some or all of the company "profit sharing" as cash instead.

I must have been working on DB plans and the why's and what's of a CODA plan slipped by me.

What is the advantage of having a true CODA vs normal 401(k) deferrals - or are they considered to be the same thing?

Are there any differences, like FICA taxation, what amounts count for testing, etc?

The new 415 regulations require us to limit a benefit to the lesser of the 415 dollar limit (as adjusted for RA > 65 and <62) or the 401(a)(17) comp limit.

Does the 401(a)(17) limit for 415 purposes apply even if the participants 3 year average is less than the 401(a)(17) limit?

For example

Participant age 68

20 yrs service

7 yrs of participation

$14,500 average comp

401(a)(17) average comp limit $18,194 mo.

Is it $18,194 x 7/10 = $12,736

Thanks much

Can you terminate a safe harbor 401(k) plan that provides for the 3 percent employer contribution in the middle of the year without a financial hardship? The regs aren't clear. I think you can provide a notice to participants, the 3 percent for the period the plan was in existence, and subject the plan to discrimination testing for the year, but I am not sure. Anyone agree or disagree?

Back in 2004 there was much discussion of the fact that the IRS was inactivating trust EINs that had not been used in a few years. Supposedly they agreed to stop doing that after much protest from plans that didn't happen to have distributions every year. I remember seeing discussions of the issue here, but wasn't able to find any just now.

We are running into the issue again, with EINs that were issued as recently as 2006. Does anyone have up to date information about where and to whose attention the request to reactive the number is supposed to be sent?

We have a client who has a Rabbi Trust. A key person has approximately 6.5 million and is now fully vested. However, they plan to work for the next 1.5 years. After 1.5 years the income will drop significantly. They would like to have the money rolled out now however postpone tax on the distribution.

Is there a way to do this?

Thank you,

Mike

We are going to evaluate moving from a flat percentage to a fixed dollar subsidy of our health plans. Is anyone else doing this currently? Any comments or lesson learned that you would be willing to share. Thanks.

Earlier this week, I came across a QDRO that was approved, but shouldn't have been. It was a shared payment order, but gave the AP an election to come into pay status anytime after the P's early retirement date. On our advice, letters were sent to the parties approving the order as a QDRO back in 2004. We have six years before the P hits early retirement age.

Should we tell the parties to go back to court to revise the order? Does the plan or our firm have any liability exposure for getting it wrong the first time? Any thoughts on the best course of action would be appreciated. Thanks.