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    Plan Sponsor Question re late deposit of deferrals

    Guest MaryMac
    By Guest MaryMac,

    Hello experts. Just a plan sponsor here with a question.

    We have historically segregated funds into a plan account the date before payday, and invested the funds in participants accounts on the actual payday. This past pay period, we funded on the Monday following pay day, (ie. one business day later than normal) though we still segregated the funds on the day prior to payday.

    I've search past threads for hours, and read 29 CFR 2510.3-102, and Rev Proc 27, which seem to be the most relevant.

    I've heard of not breaking your pattern of deposit and once you've proven you can do it within a particular time frame, you have shown that this is your reasonable date.

    We really pull out all the stops to meet our current timing, and sometimes we come close to not making it.

    So, is breaking your pattern by one day a prohibited transaction? I think we met our requirements by segregating the money when we did.

    Thanks for any help, and maybe any links to bulletins, announcements that provide more guidance than I've found.


    EPCRS-Sig SCP

    Guest new2nqdc
    By Guest new2nqdc,

    Individually designed program has a determination letter covering GUST, GATT, CRT, TRA, SBJPA, etc. but it does not cover EGTRRA.

    Plan sponsor wants to a significant self-correction (we are w/in the two years) but I noticed the favorable letter requirement in the Rev Proc released in 2006 (2006-27) for doing significant SCP.

    Can the plan do a self correction that is a significant SCP (without submission) when it has a favorable letter that does not include EGTRRA?


    Participant Certificates

    Guest DeniseD
    By Guest DeniseD,

    Hello,

    In Relius, under Reporter Writer, I am able to print a hard copy of the participant certificate that has detailed information that employees would also like to view on the Corbel web page. Can someone guide me on the set up in Relius so that this information is accessible on the web?

    Thank you.


    Excess Deferral for 2006

    Guest AJM 34
    By Guest AJM 34,

    I have a participant who is over age 50 and went over the 2006 402(g) limit.

    His EE deferrals were $23,282.25, which includes a $5,000 catch up contribution. He is over the 2006 402(g) limit of $20,000 by $3,282.25.

    Obviously, I missed the 4/15/07 deadline to correct the excess deferral plus earnings. Can I still do the correction now?


    not-for-profit tax emempt nonqualified

    k man
    By k man,

    org wants to have a plan with nonelective employer contributions. would this plan be subject to 457(f) as well as 409A?


    teachers' return to employment post-retirement

    lexi
    By lexi,

    Does anyone know of the PLR (issued within the last 10 years maybe?) that permitted retired teachers to return to work and earn compensation while continuing to receive pension benefits?


    404 and 415

    Guest tmills
    By Guest tmills,

    If an ESOP has participants with 415 excesses, 404(j) limits the amount of the contribution subject to the 404 limit (and therefore deductible) by reducing the contribution by the 415 excesses. However, in the case of a C Corp. ESOP, 404(a)(9) says there is a 25% of comp. limit on the principal payments and no limit on interest. Therefore, assuming the interest paid at least equals the 415 excesses, is there any reason why the 415 excesses can't be deemed to be interest payments and therefore deductible in spite of 404(j)?

    Seems too good to be true. Any help would be appreciated.


    DCAP and overnight camp

    Guest Nini
    By Guest Nini,

    We have a participant who is requesting reimbursement for overnight camp expenses. The camp has already provided a breakdown of expenses between "day" and "night" expenses, and the amount reimbursable is less than 1/2 the amount of the total expense.

    The participant has now been told by her accountant that none of the expense is reimbursable under a DCAP. In the past, I believe we have reimbursed if the participant was able to provide a breakdown of the expenses.

    Any thoughts/guidance is appreciated.


    Small TPA purchasing another smaller TPA

    Guest ICannotDiscloseMyIdentity
    By Guest ICannotDiscloseMyIdentity,

    We are discussing the possibility of buying another TPA firm (owners looking to retire), but we have never done this before. We are looking at two TPA firms, each is about 1/4 our current size (we are a TPA firm). When all is done, if these both work out, we would have about 1200 small plans. We have retained competent legal counsel to help us along the way. However, we would like to hear from anyone else out there about good ideas that worked well, or ideas that turned out bad that we should avoid.

    Thank you.


    Employer penalty tax for excess contributions and catch up

    Guest phy401k
    By Guest phy401k,

    If a portion of an ADP failure is recharacterized as catch-up, does the employer pay the 10% excise tax on the full testing failure, including the catch-up contributions, or only on the actual ADP refunds that are required to be distributed?


    COBRA Continuee Uncooperative

    J Simmons
    By J Simmons,

    An ER with more than 20 but fewer than 100 EEs has a few former EEs that have elected and currently are on COBRA continuation. The group health policy year is going to end on 9/30, and the ER is shopping for quotes for the next policy year. One of the COBRA continuees is refusing to provide the info required by health insurers before they will issue quotes. Can the ER send this obstinate COBRA contiuee a notice explaining that if she does not provide the info in a timely manner, that her COBRA continuation coverage will end due to failure to cooperate?


    Health Plans for multiple employers

    oriecat
    By oriecat,

    3 separate employers -

    Corporation 1 - 300+ employees, 100% of stock owned by John

    Corporation 2 - 5 employees, 100% of stock owned by John

    John's Sole Proprietorship - 4 employees

    In the past the two corporations have shared benefit plans. For example, on the self-insured dental plan, Corp 2 is listed as a Participating Employer. Same with the 401(k) plan. I am not sure how the insured medical plan was set up, since it has been in place for like 25 years, so perhaps it was not done properly at the time, but I believe it was, and that the insurer was aware that there were 2 separate corps involved in the plan.

    Now we are asking about adding the 3rd company to the plans and being told we cannot do that, they would have to have their own small plan. Is this correct? Is there any way to have these 3 plans all together for all benefit purposes? Do we have any options?


    Short-Term Deferral Rule

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    Is is just me or did the final Sectin 409A regulations significantly curtail the short-term deferral exception?

    As stated in the proposed regulations the exception applied whenever, absent an election by the employee, deferred compensation was "actually or constructively received by the [employee] by the later of the 15th day of the third month following the [employee's] first taxable year in which the amount is no longer subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture or the 15th day of the third month following the end of of the [employer's] first taxable year in which the amount is no longer subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture."

    Under the final regulations, there is an additional requirement: in addition to the "timely receipt" requirement above, the deferred compensation plan may not "provide for a deferred payment" - i.e., it may not state that any payment will be made or completed on or after any date, or upon or after the occurence of any event [such as a separation from service or change in control] that will or may occur later than the end of the applicalbe 2 1/2 month period."

    Example 6 in the Final Regulations (Section 1.401-1(b)(4)(iii)) describes a situation that would qualify for the short-term deferral exception under the Proposed Regs, but not the Final Regs: On November 1, 2008, employee obtains a LBR to severance pay on a separation from service. The example states: "Because the separation from service is an event that may occur after the applicable 2 1/2 month period, the bonus plan provides for a deferred payment and therefore provicdes for a deferral of compensation. Accordingly, the bonus plan will not qualify as a short-term deferral regardless of whether Employee F separates from service and the bonus is paid or maid available on or before March 15, 2009."

    Any comments appreciated.


    Deceased Participant

    Guest Twinky
    By Guest Twinky,

    We recently took over a plan that has a deceased participant. The participant has been deceased for 10 years.

    The client informs me that they have, on several occasions, tried to get the parents (bene's) to take the money out of the plan.

    Can we either treat this participant as a "missing participant" and forfeit the money until such a date when a claim is made, or force the parents (bene's) to take the money?

    Had this been addressed YEARS ago it would be a non-issue since the threshold was $5,000 back then. However, the vested balance is just over $2,000 and the plan has a "force out" threshold of $1,000. Other than amending the plan to change the threshold and do a rollover, what are our options?

    Thanks so much!


    Failed ADP and 401(m) Coverage

    Guest Lawrenceg
    By Guest Lawrenceg,

    Plan fails ADP and needs 2% to pass. Plan also fails 401(m) coverage due to a 1000hr+ last day requirement. The ratio is 38%.

    Question, is there one correction/contribution that can be made to satisfy both the 401(m) coverage failure and the the ADP failure?


    Plan Retroactively Disqualified and IRC Code Section 402(B)(4)

    Guest San Diego Benefits Guy
    By Guest San Diego Benefits Guy,

    First, I want to state that I "inherited" this plan!!! This is also my first plan disqualification.

    A client maintained a DBPP that the IRS has determined failed to meet the requirements of Code Section 401(a)(26) and 410(b). The client only contributed $210,000 to the DBPP for the two years in question. However, the PVAB for the husband and wife for the two years in question is close to $425,000.

    This is the case as the client accrued large benefits due to high compensation during the two years in question. However, after the second year in question and prior to the funding deadline for the second year in question, the client realized that they could not make commensurate contributions, so the actuary used assumptions to limit projected benefits and limit current funding levels to address this issue.

    Any thoughts on how to deal with this?

    Say the company contributed $200,000 to the DBPP.

    PVABs for husband and wife are $400,000

    Trust earned $50,000.

    Is this what happens:

    $200,000 treated as a compensation expenses rather than a DBPP contribution.

    Husband and wife have additional income of another $400,000

    Trust has income of $50,000

    Under this senario, husband and wife get double-taxed on the first $200,000 of their PVAB and an additional $200,000 as the PVAB is $200,000 more than amount contributed to DBPP.

    Is this correct?

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

    Ed


    Employer Contributions to FSA

    Guest erinf
    By Guest erinf,

    I don't really have much information, but it appears an employer wants to put some money into certain people's health FSAs and not others. I feel like I must be missing something, but all I can think of is that it would only be a problem if the people whose FSAs the employer is contributing to are HCEs, where it would screw up discrimination testing. Is there any issue with doing this on just a "pick-and-choose" basis?


    QDRO with some odd terms

    Gary
    By Gary,

    A QDRO was submitted to a large company pension plan some time ago.

    The pension was divided under the "separate interest" method as the participant's spouse commenced receipt of her pension prior to the participant retiring and receiving his pension.

    The marital portion accrued benefit subject to division was an accrued benefit of $1,000, where 50% of such portion was allocated to the former spouse.

    The spouse commenced the pension at age 62 and the terms of the plan provided for an early commencement factor (for alternate payees) of 0.8. If a plan participant retires at age 62 he receives 100% of his accrued benefit, but such subsidy was not provided to the alternate payee.

    The plan does not allow the alternate payee to have a beneficiary, so the alternate payee is receiving her portion as a life annuity.

    My expectation would have been that the alternate payee would have received a pension of:

    = $1,000 * 0.5 (50% to alternate payee) * 0.8 (early commencemtn factor) = $400 per month

    However, the plan further reduced the pension as follows:

    = $400 * 0.95 = $380

    The plan stated that the benefit was reduced 5% for a survivor annuity reduction factor.

    I do not understand this reduction.

    Anyone know of what I might be missing?

    Thanks.


    SSN on Participant Statement Prohibited by HIPAA?

    Guest Rider
    By Guest Rider,

    We're generally taking the same steps that everyone else is to protect sensitive data. However a particpant is making waves that putting their SSN on a participant statement that is mailed to their home is a violation of HIPAA.

    I have been unable to find any specific reference to to this point or the application to retirement plans.

    Does anyone know if HIPAA prohibits putting an ssn on a statement?


    Short term deferral exception from 409A

    Christine Roberts
    By Christine Roberts,

    Is is just me or did the final Sectin 409A regulations significantly curtail the short-term deferral exception?

    As stated in the proposed regulations the exception applied whenever, absent an election by the employee, deferred compensation was "actually or constructively received by the [employee] by the later of the 15th day of the third month following the [employee's] first taxable year in which the amount is no longer subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture or the 15th day of the third month following the end of of the [employer's] first taxable year in which the amount is no longer subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture."

    Under the final regulations, there is an additional requirement: in addition to the "timely receipt" requirement above, the deferred compensation plan may not "provide for a deferred payment" - i.e., it may not state that any payment will be made or completed on or after any date, or upon or after the occurence of any event [such as a separation from service or change in control] that will or may occur later than the end of the applicalbe 2 1/2 month period."

    Example 6 in the Final Regulations (Section 1.401-1(b)(4)(iii)) describes a situation that would qualify for the short-term deferral exception under the Proposed Regs, but not the Final Regs: On November 1, 2008, employee obtains a LBR to severance pay on a separation from service. The example states: "Because the separation from service is an event that may occur after the applicable 2 1/2 month period, the bonus plan provides for a deferred payment and therefore provicdes for a deferral of compensation. Accordingly, the bonus plan will not qualify as a short-term deferral regardless of whether Employee F separates from service and the bonus is paid or maid available on or before March 15, 2009."

    Any comments appreciated.


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