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415 Limit question
Can someone please help me with this question from the sample exam?
Calculate the maximum annual benefit for a participant at Social Security and normal retirement age in 2002 based on the following information:
Maximum Dollar Limit for 2002 $160,000
3-year annual compensation average 170,000
5-year annual compensation average 150,000
Years of service 9
Years of participation 8
I thought the answer was $128,000; but the answer key says the correct answer is $144,000.
I though I understood this, but now I am totally confused!!! And I am taking the exam on the 13th, so please answer back soon if you know the answer!!!
Thanks.
accrued to date testing with sep plan
I am testing a new db plan and considering using accrued to date. The client previously maintained a SEP.
Is it required,allowed,not allowed or unkown whether I can use the normalized SEP balance divided by the testing service to add to my NAR and MVAR from the db plan?
Draper1?
Terminated participants
Clarification needed - 2005 projections. Top Heavy SH 401(k) Plan. Cross testing using 3% SHNEC. Owners max's out 401(k) contribution, get 3% SH and 13.33% PS contribution. Normal eligibility, so no stat. exclusions. Last day provision/1000 hrs. All others get 3% SH and in order to pass non-discrimination testing they need another 4%. I have 4 Terms that get 3% SH. In order to pass gateway, they need another 1.44%. The problem is I fail cross-testing and in order to pass, I need to bump them up to the 7%. Is this necessary or can I stop at just the gateway? Does Terms with < then 500 hrs come into play for testing?
Thanks
Definition of Comp for a Short Plan Year
I am designing a plan with a short plan year and I want to make sure my thought pattern is correct. I have a plan with a plan year ending on 9-30-2006. There will be a short plan year from 10-1 to 12-31-2006. I am going to define 414 comp as calendar year comp for the short plan year. I am doing this in order to make the ADP for the HCEs low enough to pass. Is there anything I am not considering that would cause me some problems?
Amendment for Terminating Plan
Any chance the IRS has any form/canned amendments for plans terminating in 2005? I recall a few years back that the IRS was actually providing canned amendment language for terminating plans... I have an employer who just wants to do a bare bones amendment prior to terminating their PSP. Didn't want to re-invent the wheel if I didn't have to do so..... Thanks for any help.
Gains during 6 mo wait for key ees?
Is there anything in the guidance which prevents a key exec from being credited with gains/losses during the 6 month waiting period between termination and distribution?
Joint Apprenticeship Training Committee
I am encountering something I have never dealt with before, so if anybody could provide some insight, I would appreciate it!
Our CPA firm prepares financial statements for a Joint Apprentice Training Committee for a Local Union of the IBEW. In December, 2003, the local received a memo from the national union regarding the preparation of a LM-2 report and a T-1 form. However, the T-1 form can be avoided if the training committee files an ERISA Form 5500 with the DOL.
My question is what information would be reported on the Form 5500? I see a code 4J for an apprenticeship program, but what would go on the Form. Financial information? For the 5500 itself, who would be considered a participant in terms of reporting? If there are over 100 participants, does the committee need a certified audit of its financial statements?
Again, any information that anyone could provide would be appreciated.
Terminating DB Plan Missing Participants
I originally posted this in Plan Terminations, but although a lot of users viewed, I did not receive any answers. So I will try it here.
After reading Sections 4050, 4022, and 4044 of the PBGC Regulations and the March 17, 2000 amendents to these Regulatioons, I think I am now thoroughly confused. When calculating the amount to remit to the PBGC for benefits for which there is an elective lump sum, it appears that the 1983 GAM Table with a 6 year setback for females should be used. However, I have no idea what interest rate should be used. Can someone please verify the mortality table and tell me how to determine the proper interest rate(s)?
Conversion to Roth IRA with DB Trust for Grandchildren as Beneficairies
Has anyone done an analysis they can share or have you seen an article on the conversion of a regular IRA to a Roth IRA (or a large portion of the IRA being converted) with the conversion amount not included in the AGI Calculation with the intension of a using Designated beneficiary trust (probably a conduit trusts) as the beneficiary with only grandchildren as the trust beneficiaries. Key is individual being able to get into the AGI limit in the year of conversion (possibly first year of retirement) and other assets being used to pay the income tax on the conversion. Idea is convert an amount the IRA owner will not need in retirement and to get the longer tax deferral available to the grandchildren.
Can an LLC 50% Owner receive deferred compensation in their capacity as an employee of the LLC
Can a 50% LLC owner receive deferred compensation in their capacity as an employee of the LLC? I'm unfamiliar with def'd comp for LLC members. My client wants to offer ownership to a key employee but still wants to tie the employee to the entity for 5 yrs via some form of forfeiture. Thanks!
Adopting provisions - EGTRRA
2 questions:
1. What is the deadline for adding safe harbor provisions to an existing 401k Plan?
2. What is deadline for signing EGTRRA amendment for a restated plan (that previously signed EGTRRA amendment when the GUST restatement was done)
Client with existing 401k plan provides 401(k) safe harbor notice for the 2006 plan year to its employees on 12/1/05. Because document is volume submitter, brand new document must be executed which is done on 12/1/05.
However, client inadvertently did not sign egtrra on 12/1/05.
what is the deadline to sign egtrra amendment on a newly restated document to add 401k safe harbor provisions?
Does the fact that EGTRRA amendment not being signed have any affect on 401k safe harbor?
Thanks
Cross Testing with Deferrals
I have a takeover plan where the owner (57) and son (31) deferred maximum and owner recevied max contribution under SH non-elective and discretionary profit sharing. Son recevied same 2% PS as rest of staff. There are only six staff memebers and several are near age 50. When I ran the non-discrimination testing, it seemed to fail miserably under the Ave. Benefits Test. Am I correct to assume that the deferrals are requried to be included in the testing?
the nasty little elf is providing another Christmas puzzle
this is an updated version of what has been passed around for years.
However there are now 72 songs to identify by the pictures.
in all fairness, a list of Christmas songs is included, though not every song on the list will be used, just to confuse you.
And, in all fairness to others, please do not provide answers in this thread. I suppose you can always start a new thread and label it quite plainly ANSWERS so you don't spoil the torture for anyone else.
hey, I just looked at this today, created it to a word document. I am completely baffled at the moment looking at some of the stuff, so good luck!
Options for terminated SARSEP
Recent growth at my company resulted in highly compensated employees hitting ADP testing caps in our SARSEP for 2004. In 2005 we would likely have exceeded the 25 employee SARSEP limit as well. So the SARSEP was terminated early this year and replaced with a 401k Safe Harbor plan.
I cannot find many references on the BenefitsLink forums regarding options for terminated SARSEP plans. The only clear options are: 1) SARSEP and 401k accounts can be kept separate; or 2) the SARSEP can be rolled over into the new 401k account.
A) Can the terminated SARSEP be rolled over to an IRA? Or would this only be allowed after leaving the employment of the company sponsoring the plan?
B) The SARSEP was in place long enough that two brokerages were used for holding SARSEP accounts. First a full service brokerage and later a discount brokerage. Some employees hold accounts at both SARSEP account brokerages. Did the the termination of the SARSEP dissallow combining these accounts (ie. transferring from the full service brokerage to the discount broker)?
Thanks for any input.
QJSA
Do the QJSA rules apply to a nonelecting church plan?
Classification of Owners and their children
In perusing another topic on this board, Tom Poje mentioned in passing that if one classification in a cross-tested plan is "Owners" then the children of the owners are in. We have a plan, drafted by a law firm, that has "Owners" as one class and "Children of Owners" as another group. Is this a problem? That is, are the children already included in the first group? And, if they are, how do you keep them out of that group?
Safe Harbor "Wait and See"
A non-safe harbor plan, written on a prototype document, sent a "Wait and See" Safe Harbor nonelective notice to the participants in a timely manner prior to the start of the 2005 plan year (calendar year plan). The plan sponsor notifies the participants in 2005 that the plan will be amended to be a Safe Harbor plan for 2005.
For 2006 they decide to use the "Wait and See" approach again. Does the Plan therefore have to be amended again, prior to 1/1/2006, to remove the safe harbor provisions, or is it ok to leave the safe harbor provisions in the plan pending the plan sponsor's decision regarding the safe harbor contributions later in 2006?
Thanks!
additional report
per a request, here is the hardship report. (requires you to check 'zero activity' accounts, just in case you have sources and one (or more) sources has been elimnated, zapped or whatever.
also the safe harbor allocation report.
This report works if account number for the safe harbor is greater than 799 and all other nonelective accounts are less than 800. One would have to modify the report to work for other conditions.
it is hoped these work.I tinkered with the safe harbor report the other day.
It should print by division and give totals by division, and the % of SHNEC.
should also indicate if someone is at 415 limit, but then that is what I fooled with the other day and I might have broken it.
C-corp to S-corp
I have a business with cafeteria & 401k plans which switched from c-corp to s-corp on 5/1/05. There are 2 shareholders, 50% each.
The question is as an s-corp, must the 50% owners be excluded from the cafeteria plan? They have both been participating since 1/1/05 from my understanding.
Definition of Compensation
Plan's definitionof compensation includes deferred compensation. Client wants to amend to exclude deferred compensation for 2005 Plan Year because a Highly Compensated Employee who retired but comes back to help out has wages and deferred compensation. They don't want to give allocations on deferred compensation.
Can the amendment be signed now to be effective as of 1/1/05 or does it have to be effective 1/1/06?
Thanks for all input.





