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    ETFs in 401k - 5500 Reporting

    5500sorBust
    By 5500sorBust,

    If a 401k PS Plan holds an Exchange-Traded Fund (ETF) that is registered with the SEC, should those assets be reported on line 1c(13)?


    Rollover of Traditional IRA including Nondeductible Contributions

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Is there a rule that says that an IRA including nondeductible contributions cannot be rolled over to a 401(k) plan?  Ordinarily  I would say forget it but in this case it is the owner who wants to consolidate.

    If the answer was no, wouldn't that be indicated on this chart?  I don't see any mention of any such restriction.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/rollover_chart.pdf


    Any advice on converting a pdf of a Sungard plan doc to an xml file without access to the original software or template?

    MeetMeInTheBackdoorRoth
    By MeetMeInTheBackdoorRoth,

    Hoping to be able to import this existing document from Sungard into FT William. Any ideas are appreciated!


    Combo plan - 401a4 testing - component testing related

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi --

    Census:

    HCE1 & HCE2

    NHCE1, NHCE2 & NHCE3

    CB plan covers HCE1 and NHCE1

    401k/PS covers all

    In general, I managed to pass annual but due client's request for the HCE2, things got complicated.

    410b is not an issue, passing both ratio and ABPT.

    Is there a way to test HCE1, NHCE1 & NHCE2 under annual method and HCE2 and NHCE3 under component rule?

    The reason I am asking is because neither HCE2 nor NHCE3 are covered under the CB plan.

    Thank you

     


    Deferral on Zero Compensation

    Plan Doc
    By Plan Doc,

    Employer contributed $10,000 in January, 2022 as a 12/31/2021 elective deferral to the account of the business owner's wife, who is a Participant, but had no compensation in 2021.  Should/can the contribution, adjusted for earnings/losses be returned to the employer?  Is there any way the funds can stay in the Plan, if not in the Participant's account?      


    HDHP Newbie Q&A

    wizwor
    By wizwor,

    I don't generally use healthcare.  If something breaks or stops working, I get assistance via the emergency room.  My wife is deceased.  My youngest child is about to get his own healthcare.  This year I decided to switch to a High Deductible Healthcare Plan and open a Healthcare Savings Account.  HDHP went into effect the first of the year.  On March 14th, I fully funded the HSA ($8300).  I expect to use the account to pay my deductible and other expenses like dental.  I found Publication 502 which I believe lists covered expenses for the HSA.  I have just a few expenses this year...

    • OPTUMRX, April 05, 2022, $883.01
    • OPTUMRX, March 18, 2022, $2.62

    • DENTALCARE, March 15, 2022, $50.00 (date of 2/5/22)

    • MASS GENERAL, February 04, 2022, $798.94 (date of service 12/23/21 and 12/28/21)

    Does date of service or date of billing determine whether cost of a service can be reimbursed from my HSA?  Can charges incurred prior to the creation of the HSA be reimbursed?  What kind of documentation do I need to keep as evidence of eligibility?

    Also, my company's HDHP is not 'creditable'.  My understanding is that people who delay Medicare past 65 who do not have creditable coverage face penalties when they enroll in Medicare.  Should I switch to a creditable plan the year before enrolling or enroll on the first day of eligibility?

     


    Self Correction Of Defaulted Loan

    mming
    By mming,

    Topic has been used as a continuation of a previous discussion


    Audit CAP Maximum Penalty

    Ananda
    By Ananda,

    The IRS states that the Audit CAP correction penalties will not be excessive and will bear a reasonable relationship to the nature, extent and severity of the plan failures. However, Rev Proc. Section 5.01 states that the Maximum Payment Amount would be the tax imposed due to plan disqualification including tax on trust income, failure to file form 1041, income tax due to loss of employer deductions, etc., Has anyone experienced this type of an Audit CAP penalty or a similar severe penalty imposed on a client plan. Typically given my experience with Audit CAP I've seen penalties in the $15,000 range due to multiple plan qualification failure issues. Has anyone had a client that experienced the Maximum Payment Amount penalty, or severe high $  penalties, and if so, what amounts? 


    Missed Deferral Opportunity for Auto Enrollments

    CelloFan
    By CelloFan,

    What is the right basis for correcting an MDO for automatic enrollment?  50% of the ADP, or the pct of the auto enrollment?

    Here it looks like it would be 50% of the auto enrollment pct:

    https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/fixing-common-plan-mistakes-correcting-a-failure-to-effect-employee-deferral-elections

    Our situation: elections are made on our recordkeeper site, and transfer over to our payroll system.  Due to human error, some elections were not transferred.  These non-transferred errors include automatic enrollments as well as positive elections.  

    It seems to me that all these participants were given the option to defer, as they received info from the recordkeeper and were directed to the site.  As they were given the opportunity, this 401k plan fix would not apply:

    https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/401k-plan-fix-it-guide-eligible-employees-were-not-given-the-opportunity-to-make-an-elective-deferral-election-excluding-eligible-employees

    Thanks in advance for any comments!

     


    Asset Sale-Sellers Plan Terminating with Participant Loans

    ERISAGal
    By ERISAGal,

    When an asset sale occurs between two entities both having 401k plans and the seller's plan terminates, what happens to the outstanding loans in the seller's plan?  Since it is being terminated rather than merged, is there any way to "transfer" the outstanding loans to the Buyer's plan in order to avoid the loans being defaulted and taxed to the participant?

    Thanks for your help with this...I can't seem to find a definitive answer...Yes, I know it will depend on the plan documents of both plans, but wondering if the plan's could be amended to allow for the transfers of the outstanding loans.  

    Thanks again!

     


    How do you freeze a 401(k)?

    MeetMeInTheBackdoorRoth
    By MeetMeInTheBackdoorRoth,

    Maybe a dumb question, but I haven't found anything concrete on the IRS website that shows how one proceeds with freezing a plan in the case of a merger, only that it's an option. Does freezing it require an amendment to the plan, or will a notice to current participants suffice (similar to a black-out period)?


    Key employee definition for top heavy

    Tom
    By Tom,

    A plan sponsor was sold 100% to an ESOP for its employees.  So the plan sponsor is now the ESOP.  I'm told there are no corporate officers but I am checking with their CPA firm.   The ESOP has a Board of Directors who are also plan participants.  I'd think of them as officers.  But if none of them have wages over the key employee limit, then it seems there are no key employees.  I thought I read at one time there had to be a minimum number of officers, or at least one.  All I can find now is there is a defined maximum number but I don't see anything about minimum number.

    Thank you in advance for comments.

     


    PBGC Coverage determination for a financial firm

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    I want to check others' experience on time frame and expectations for getting a PBGC coverage determination.

    Applied for determination on PBGC coverage beginning of March 2022 for a financial company.

    Was contacted for additional information multiple times during March and provided everything they asked for. Last communique was on 3/31/2022.

    Haven't heard from PBGC by mid-April so started following up multiple times and the responses I have been getting are:

    "We are working on the request for an opinion letter for the proposed plan.   I do not have an estimated date that a letter will be issued."

    "We still don’t have an estimated date for issuance of an opinion letter.  We’ll let you know when we do." This one was last week.

    Anyone had a recent experience?

    Client is anxious as this is for 2021.

    Thanks


    QDRO after AP Dies?

    HCE
    By HCE,

    We have been asked if we can process a QDRO provided to us after the death of the AP.  Our QDRO procedure does not address this scenario.  Can we?


    Affiliated Service Group?

    Alan Simpson
    By Alan Simpson,

    Have two attorneys that each own 100% of their own s-corps.  Those two attorneys each own 50% of an accounting firm of which they do not perform any legal work or share mutual client.  Is this a ASG?


    Disputed QDRO

    HCE
    By HCE,

    We have had a participant sending us letters for months, warning us that we might receive a QDRO but we should not honor it because it will be bogus (in this case it is a child support QDRO and he claims and has provided some documentation suggesting he is current on child support).

    Today we received the QDRO.  It is certified by a court and, under normal circumstances, we would approve and process it.

    Questions:

    1) should we tell the participant we received the QDRO and give him time to respond?

    2) should we give the participant a copy of the QDRO (if not by default, should we if he asks for it)?

    3) should we give him additional information, like the cover letter with the attorney's contact information (if not by default, should we if he asks for it)?

    My preference is to honor the QDRO if it has been approved by the court, but we have had at least one QDRO submitted in error in the past that was processed (i.e. the account divided and paid out to the AP) and it turned into a big mess.  Our normal process is not to look outside the four corners of the QDRO document, but I want to avoid future headaches.

     

    EDIT:  To add some context requested by some of the questions: 

    • "We" refers to the delegate of the Administrator tasked with approving QDROs.
    • I refer to the Order as a QDRO, because we have already determined that it satisfies the criteria necessary to be approved as Qualified.
    • Our process does call for notification of receipt of the Order, but not necessarily providing an actual copy of the Order, and definitely not for providing additional information, such as cover letters and attorney contact information.

    The big questions revolve around how much additional information we should provide to the participant upon request, and whether we should give any credence to non-QDRO related information (such as the participant's objection), and if we need to give the Participant time to respond before proceeding.


    Related Rollovers

    TC1
    By TC1,

    We are moving a 401(k) from another provider to our platform.  The plan has both related and regular rollover.  We set up 2 separate money types to keep the funds separate.  I'm being told that I need to find out the prior sources that the related rollover came from, like deferral, match, etc.  I have never heard anything like this before.  Is this correct?   At prior employers, we never got this information, and I wouldn't know what to do with it if I had it.  Thanks. 


    After-tax (Voluntary) contributions in a safe harbor match plan

    cpc0506
    By cpc0506,

    Client is looking to add after-tax  (voluntary) contributions to their current safe harbor match plan.

    I understand the ACP testing and top heavy issues that arise with after-tax contributions, but I am trying to determine if the client is required to provide the Safe harbor match to the after-tax contributions.  Can anyone provide some guidance?  Thanks.


    Safe Harbor 403(b) Plan, but.....

    bzorc
    By bzorc,

    So our firm took over the audit of a 403(b) Plan, YE 12/31/20 (yes, 2020, don't ask). The plan document we have shows that it is written as a "Safe-Harbor" 403(b) Plan, with a match equal to 100% of deferrals on the first 3% of compensation and then 50% of deferrals on the next 2%. However, in going into the participant testing, the first person picked for testing had $19,500 of deferrals, ok. When the match was tested, the matching contribution was equal to 5% of compensation, not 4%. Anomaly? No, anybody with greater than 5% of deferrals received a 5% match.

    We noted that the document does allow for a matching contribution, and it's defined as discretionary. Question brought up is whether the extra 1% can be considered a discretionary match, and, what, if any, ACP testing would have to be performed? To complicate matters, there is no TPA retained by this employer, so it is a big old mess.

    Thanks for any replies.


    Missed Deferral Opportunity

    Lou81
    By Lou81,

    I have a client who was reviewing entry and discovered they missed two EE's that were eligible 1/1/2022.  They are going to provide the enrollment information ASAP.

    There is no match, so just the missed deferral

    If they EE's return the forms and indicate they do not want to defer, do you still have to provide a QNEC for the MDO?

    Their NHC ADP average is low, if they return the form and want to defer, 10% can i use that % for my correction instead of waiting until next year when i do the ADP test?

    I appreciate your help.

    Thanks


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