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MPP/403(b) mix - is this possible? (also on 403(b) board)
I'm reviewing a plan for a client who is taking over the administration for the plan. Granted, I think that I'm missing a few documents (an annuity funded plan with more paperwork than the Pentagon), but it appears that the employer (a governmental entity) has a money purchase pension plan and a 403(b) deferral-only plan. I'm assuming it was set up like this because the employer is a government (no 401(k) allowed). What I don't get is the contribution scheme . . .
The MPP appears to provide that the employer will only contribute to the MPP if an employee contributes to the 403(b) plan. I'm going to quote the SPD
"For each Plan Year in which you authorize . . . a salary reduction contribution . . . under the Tax Deferred Annuity Plan equal to 3% of your compensation up to 33 1/3% of the SS TWB and 6% of your comp'n in excess of 33 1/3% of the SSTWB, your employer will make a contribution to the MPP . . . equal to 4% of your comp'n up to 33 1/3% of the SSTWB and 8% of your comp'n in excess of 33 1/3% of the SS TWB."
I am ignoring the fact that the annuity contract says that a minimum of $300 must be contributed for each participant annually. ![]()
My question is WHAT??
Seriously, why would you want to set it up this way? Am I missing something or would one plan (a 403(b)) that provides matching contributions be MUCH easier? Not sure that you could transfer this formula per se, but this seems rather complicated for not a lot of benefit to anyone?
Any thoughts??
MPP/403(b) mix - is this possible?
I'm reviewing a plan for a client who is taking over the administration for the plan. Granted, I think that I'm missing a few documents (an annuity funded plan with more paperwork than the Pentagon), but it appears that the employer (a governmental entity) has a money purchase pension plan and a 403(b) deferral-only plan. I'm assuming it was set up like this because the employer is a government (no 401(k) allowed). What I don't get is the contribution scheme . . .
The MPP appears to provide that the employer will only contribute to the MPP if an employee contributes to the 403(b) plan. I'm going to quote the SPD
"For each Plan Year in which you authorize . . . a salary reduction contribution . . . under the Tax Deferred Annuity Plan equal to 3% of your compensation up to 33 1/3% of the SS TWB and 6% of your comp'n in excess of 33 1/3% of the SSTWB, your employer will make a contribution to the MPP . . . equal to 4% of your comp'n up to 33 1/3% of the SSTWB and 8% of your comp'n in excess of 33 1/3% of the SS TWB."
I am ignoring the fact that the annuity contract says that a minimum of $300 must be contributed for each participant annually. ![]()
My question is WHAT??
Seriously, why would you want to set it up this way? Am I missing something or would one plan (a 403(b)) that provides matching contributions be MUCH easier? Not sure that you could transfer this formula per se, but this seems rather complicated for not a lot of benefit to anyone?
Any thoughts??
Transfer of decedent IRA from one plan to another. Which plan document controls?
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One non-spouse beneficiary of several named transfers an inherited IRA from one institution to another. The IRA plan documents have different language regarding the hierarchy of beneficiaries.
The original plan eliminates any and all contingents at the death of the IRA participant if a primary beneficiary is alive at the death of the participant unless a "Per Stirpes" designation is used.
The receiving IRA provides that a contingent beneficiary receives the funds in the event of the death of the primary beneficiary regardless if the primary dies before or after the IRA participant. The receiving plan also does not allow beneficiaries to name beneficiaries.
There are many permutations of this example possible involving multiple primary & contingent beneficiaries and transfers of inherited IRAs between plans.
I have not found any guidance in regard to this type of issue. Is it a contract or other state law issue? How are other trustee/custodians handling decedent IRA transfers when plan language differs?
Thanks
Required Minimum Distribution
I'm a little unclear on the following:
If a participant's DOB is 5/17/1931 should I be using their age as of 12/31/02 or 12/31/03 to determine the RMD factor to use with the 12/31/02 balance payable by 12/31/03?
HCE Aggregation and Coverage Transition
I am curious how the HCE aggregation rule under Reg 1.401(k)-1(g)(1)(ii)(B)(1) is applied during the coverage transition period under IRC 410(b)(6)©.
For example, suppose Company A buys Company B on 1/1/03 and both Companies maintain qualified 401(k) Plans. The plans are intended to be kept separate for non-discrimination testing for the 2003 and 2004 plan years pursuant to IRC 410(b)(6)©. Further, suppose an HCE transfers employment in 2003 between Company A and Company B, earns compensation at each company and makes 401(k) contributions to each Plan - - when performing the ADP test for Plan A, are all contribution amounts added together in computing the HCE's ADP under each Plan?
Or does the coverage transition rule permit each Plan take into account only the deferrals made to that Plan?
Thanks for your help.
comparison of ira
are there any sources for comparing roth ira earnings? i am thinking of starting a roth and there is so much info, but no way to compare performance.
Do you choose a mutual fund to invest in?
Coordination of VEBA with 401(h) Account for Retiree Welfare
Does anyone have any experience with or thoughts about coordinating a VEBA and a 401(h) account in a pension plan with respect to funding retiree welfare benefits?
Coordination of VEBA with 401(h) Account for Retiree Welfare
Does anyone have any experience with or thoughts about coordinating a VEBA and a 401(h) account in a pension plan with respect to funding retiree welfare benefits?
Elimination of QPSA/QJSA
I have a Profit Sharing plan that has had annuities as an form of payment and therefore required the QPSA and QJSA notices, etc. I've been reviewing the new adoption agreement (that was completed by the document sponsor) for the GUST restatement. They still have annuities selected as an option for payment, but they are telling the client that the plan is exempt from the QPSA and QJSA requirements. They're saying that "annuity" can mean single life (which requires no spousal signature) and that as long as the spouse (in the case where there is one) is the beneficiary, the notices are no longer required. This is how they eliminated the J&S from their plans.
I've had several plans eliminate J&S from the plan during the restatement process, but they also eliminated all forms of annuities at the same time. I've also done some research that seems to indicate that if you have annuities (any form) in the plan, you still have to give the QPSA and QJSA notices.
Can you have annuities in the plan without being subject to the QPSA and QJSA requirements?
Can Minimum Gateway be avoided for an allocation group whose allocation is 0% (not benefitting)?
A controlled group of 3 companies wishes to establish a separate allocation group for the employees of each company so they may make varying levels of profit sharing allocations to each based upon the varying levels of profitability for each company. The plan also has a 401(k) feature benefitting employees of all companies.
If the employer decides that one company (or allocation group) will get 0% in a given year (and assuming the plan passes all other coverage and non-discrimination tests) are the participants in that allocation group still subject to the minimum gateway requirement (thus causing an unintentional contribution), or not since those employees would not be "benefitting" in that year under the 401(a) component of the plan.
Plan is NOT top heavy.
Any help appreciated.
Lower the cost of ongoing disability cases if participant can't feed himself -- pull the feeding tube if a guardian says participant would have wanted it that way
This seems to set an awful precedent for any disabled person who can no longer feed himself or herself -- any such person arguably has become dependent on "artificial life support" and is a candidate for a guardianship-assisted "right to die":
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Pag...L20031015b.html
Can a Participant who has previously defaulted on a participant loan be denied a new loan?
Can a participant who has previously defaulted on a participant loan be denied a new loan? Based upon past experience, the participant would not seem to be credit wothy. At the least, the new loan does not seem to be a good investment.
Outstanding Loan Balance
The account is a non-ERISA 403(b)(7). The participant is deceased, and there is a outstanding loan balance.
For qualified plans, we require instructions from the plan administrator confirming the outstanding loan balance, and whether it is an offset of deemed-distribution. But there is no plan administrator for the 403(b)(7) ---. How do we determine the outstanding balance and the status of the loan? Who do we get confirmation from?
Thanks in advance
Jane
Corporation or Trust as Beneficiary?
A lump sum death benefit from a DB Plan is payable to the participant's designated beneficiary per the plan document. One participant has named a corporation and another has named a revokable living trust. Since this is not an annuity, I see no 401(a)(9) issues but are there other problems that I am not seeing?
Beneficiary Rollover to IRA article
PEOs and Employer Risk vs Benefit of outsourcing
I understand a record number of PEOs went bankrupt in 2002 requiring employers to pay payroll taxes, workers comp when funds had already been paid to PEO however liability was still the employers', doubling their expenses. One of my clients wants to use a PEO based in Bradenton, FL - client in CA wondering if DOI stance is positive etc to outsourcing workers comp. They don't require any retainer for workers comp etc.due to the "power of many". Any experience with PEOs? Team America, one of the largest recently went bankrupt. Is the magic about smoke and mirrors? Do they cover expenses with new sales? How can they make money handling all including business and employer liability legal fees, COBRA, HIPAA, health, 401(k).HR, employee manuals, new hire processing, complete HR outsourcing including covering all HR related lawsuits etc for only 20% admin fee? Any comments, info, trend info or feedback would be helpful. We may want to use one as well since we have about 38 employees, same as our client. It seems too good to be true! Hidden fees? Appreciate your experience with PEOs you can email me directly as well. Thanks again.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND AN OTC LIST OR PARTIAL LIST OF SOME ALLOWABLE ITEMS -VS- NON-ALLOWABLE ITEMS?
Obviously it would not be an exhaustive listing but rather than sit here and think up a zillion "ok" items and a few "not ok" items... I was wondering if there's already one compiled out there...
Thanks ![]()
Gateway allocation
the gateway regulations say that the Plan Administrator must allocate the gateway contribution without regard to allocation conditions. i am wondering when the contribution is actually classified as a gateway contribution. lets say for example the employer decides it wants to give HCE's 15% and NHCE's 5%. this of course satisfies the gateway regulations but if it satisifes 401(a)(4) on its own would any of the contribution to the NHCE's have to be allocated in accordance with the gateway regulations?
COBRA to dependents of deceased member
PLEASE HELP I AM DESPERATE!!!!
I have a situation here where a union member covered by the health plan divorced his wife. She is currently receiving COBRA coverage for a period of 36 months due to the qualifying event of the divorce. The couple's 3 children remained covered under the husband/member.
The husband has just passed away. The children are now entitled to COBRA as well. The mother is currently covered as an individual.
Is there any law, rule or regulation which would prohibit the Fund from or allow the Fund to switch to family coverage for the mother and the three children or must they all be covered as individuals. The individual coverage premiums combined are significantly more than the rates for family coverage.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you.
New Medical Expense Reimbursement Plan - Effective Date Question
We have a client who is putting in a medical expense reimbursement plan. It is being put in place to reimburse up to $1,000 annually expenses participants incur that aren't covered by their health insurance. It is employer paid.
We are drafting the document today.
Because this is not an FSA or cafeteria type arrangement, can we backdate the effective date to January?
If you know the answer, can you point me to a citation?
Thanks.








