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    Compensation Used For EBAR Calculation

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    I'm having a tough time finding it in our document, but are you allowed to exclude compensation received prior to becoming a Plan participant in Cash Balance Plans (specifically in the EBAR calculation)?  We have it set that way for the Profit Sharing Plan, just wanted to see if we could for the Cash Balance as well?  I'm leaning no, but wanted to confirm.


    Profit sharing allocation requirement - anti-cutback

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    This may seem like a stupid question.

    Suppose a plan currently has a last day/1,000 hour requirement, but allocation requirements are waived for anyone who terminates after attaining NRA or Early Retirement Date. Now they want to amend the plan to eliminate this waiver.

    Clearly, if someone already terminated employment this year and has attained ERA/NRD, this amendment won't apply to them. But what if someone has attained ERD/NRA, but has not yet terminated employment? Is it ok to apply to them for 2022, or can it not apply to them until 2023?

    Is the determining factor the termination of employment - in other words, since they haven't terminated employment yet, is there no cutback? Or would you interpret it similar to a plan where there is a 500 hour requirement with no last day, so that as soon as you get 500 hours, you are eligible for that year? (So that in this case, as long as you have already attained ERD/NRA, you are eligible for this year?) I incline toward this latter interpretation, but I can see the argument for the "dark side."

    Granted that the plan is everyone in their own group, not a safe harbor, and not top heavy, so that it may be possible to exclude them anyway...

     


    Contested (apparently ugly) divorce, GAL appointed for minor, restraining order on respondent.

    Thornton
    By Thornton,

    I've been drafting QDROs for 6 years and haven't seen this situation before. I'm told by the attorney who retained me to draft the QDRO that the Participant/Petitioner's address cannot be in the QDRO due to a restraining order or something against the Alternate Payee/Respondent. It can be excluded from the body of QDRO but listed in the Appendix to the QDRO . The Appendix is not filed with the court but included when the QDRO is sent to the plan administrator for processing. A GAL has been appointed by the court to represent the minor children.

    1. If the attorney does want not the Participant's address even in the Appendix, does anyone have an opinion on whether or not the plan administrator will qualify the DRO without the Participant's address anywhere?

    2. Does the GAL need to sign the QDRO? 

    Thanks.


    Employer contributions based on hour worked?

    kmhaab
    By kmhaab,

    Is it permissible to have a DC plan in which employer contributions are a flat amount per hour worked? i.e., $2.50 per hour?  I can't find anything that specifically prohibits this approach, but I am not comfortable that it is allowed.  

    Employer is trying to move away from a union pension with an hourly accrual rate. 

    Thanks in advance!

     


    Plan Termination - vesting

    Lou81
    By Lou81,

    Good Morning.  

    I have a plan that will be terminating. 

    Say they terminate in 7/1/2022.  All participants would become fully vested.

    What about any participants that were paid out in the 1st 6 months of 2022?  Would i need to go back and fully vest them and do a secondary distribution?  Or should i fully vest them now knowing the plan will be terminating?

    Try to avoid any issues. 

    Appreciate your input!


    Voluntary Benefits

    Kudos26
    By Kudos26,

    Hello - Thanks in advance for any thoughts you have. 
     

    Due to a coding error there were a couple benefit plans (e.g., voluntary life) that were coded as pre-tax when they should have been coded after tax. This happened for about 2 1/2 years. No life insurance proceeds have been paid on there yet. Error was discovered and fixed going forward.

    Does anyone have experience with this and how to go about fixing the past errors?

    Thanks

     


    Steep Penalty

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    Hi,

    Thank you in advance for any information or advice regarding the following. The late filing penalty for the 5500s used to be $25 per day. It seems that was increased to $250 per day. This is quite high in relation to tax returns that even if filed up to a month late the penalty is a SMALL percent? True, there is the DFVCP , that caps the penalty  at 750, however, if someone files a day or two late, the penalty is 500? Thank you for any information etc regarding this.


    HCE determination

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Company owned by dad and son 50/50.

    Company also employs mom and daughter (son's sister).

    All above are HCE's for 2021.

    On March 1, 2022, dad sell his portion to son and son becomes 100% owner.

    When does sister become a non-HCE?

    Thank you


    Self Employed Paired Plan with After-tax Contribution

    SM
    By SM,

    I have a self employed client that has DB/DC combo plan.  They are maxing out their deferral and contributing 6% to the profit sharing account and putting 200k into the DB plan.  He asked if they can also contribute after-tax money with the intent of a Roth conversion.  For example; 

    • Client is 58
    • Client's earned income is $800,000
    • He  contributes $27,000 in 401(k) deferrals
    • The company makes a 6% Profit Sharing on $305,000 or $18,300
    • The company makes a defined benefit contribution of $200,000

    Can he contribute an additional after-tax contribution to the 401(k) plan of $22,200 ($67,500 - ($27,000+$18,300))?

    .


    Missed Deferral Opportunity

    DJL
    By DJL,

    Good morning.

    I work for a TPA firm. We have a client who missed offering its 401(k) plan to one eligible employee for 2021 and will be making a QNEC for the missed deferral opportunity under Rev. Proc. 2021-30. 

    The client's 401(k) plan is not a safe-harbor plan. It permits pre-tax deferrals, Roth contributions, catch-up contributions. It does not permit after-tax contributions (other than Roth contributions). It is a deferral-only plan so does not have a matching contribution.

    The conditions are met to use the safe-harbor correction method for elective deferral failures that exceed 3 months but do not exceed the SCP correction period. (Appendix A, Section .05(9)) The employer will make a QNEC equal to 25% of the missed deferral for this eligible employee. This employee is not catch-up eligible.

    The question--does Rev. Proc. 2021-30 require a QNEC for the pre-tax contribution and another QNEC for the Roth contribution? I think it does, but my colleagues do not.

    The eligible employee is a non-highly compensated employee. The average of the ADP for the group of non-highly compensated employees is 2.25% Since the plan permits both pre-tax contributions and Roth contributions, I think that the employer makes a QNEC of .5625% of this employees' 2021 compensation for the missed pre-tax contribution and a QNEC of .5625% of this employee's 2021 compensation for the missed Roth deferral. (Compensation as defined in the plan document.) Do you agree?   

    Thank you for any insight you can provide for this question. 


    Can a KSOP have late deferrals?

    Bri
    By Bri,

    I'm just spitballing here, feel free to shake me out of the tree.

    If the plan holds all the stock to the sponsoring company, then if late deferrals are still commingled with the sponsor's general assets.....

     

     


    Late Plan Contributions and DOL VFCP?

    Ananda
    By Ananda,

     A client of less than 100 participants made late plan contributions in 2020, meaning participant elected deferrals were deposited into the plan a few days after 7 business days. This was reported on Form 5500 and only involved around $10,000 in total late contributions with lost earnings and interest calculated to be around $80. The DOL sent the client a letter suggesting use of the DOL Voluntary Fiduciary Correction Program to correct the error. My understanding is that given the late plan deposits, the 4975 excise tax of 15% would be calculated on the lost earnings of $80 not on the $10,000. Therefore, if the excise tax is only around $14 why not just pay the excise tax on the Form 5330 and not bother with a VFCP application? The counter argument is that by filing VFCP the plan would avoid a DOL investigation over the matter and the VFCP filing and resolution would satisfy the IRS. Any thoughts or suggestions?


    Titling s/d accts when co. name always changing

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Professional services firm where participants have their own accounts with the broker-dealer. Partners always changing, firm name always changing. How important is it that the trustee name be updated?


    Charitable Trust Question

    JimboPColtrane
    By JimboPColtrane,

    I have a long-time friend / financial mentor that has asked me to be the administrator for a charitable trust he is setting up.  Upon his death he plans to initiate a $5MM+ charitable trust to benefit a local university to provide scholarships for students-athletes of non-revenue sports. He doesn’t want the university to control the assets, he wants me to “have total control of the asset investments and annual distributions to the school” and I would be responsible for filing taxes, etc for the trust.  He has told me that I should draw a modest compensation from the trust for my administration efforts.   Does anyone know how much compensation is appropriate for providing this administration?  
     

    Thanks for your input.  


    Flexible Discretionary match and employee allocation groups

    Tom
    By Tom,

    All our plans with discretionary match are "rigid".  Now a client wants to apply different match formulas to different employee groups.  HCEs will get the lowest or no match so testing is likely not a problem.  So we will amend the plan to include a Flexible Discretionary Match.  The BPD (FIS-PPD) essentially says for the Flexible Discretionary Match that the Employer retains discretion over the formula(s) including the rate, the limit on deferrals subject to match, the match limit, the categories of employees who will receive the match, and the matching time period....except as otherwise elected in the Adoption Agreement (sounds like including specific provisions is optional).   I know about the notification requirement.

    This client employer will declare and fund the match after the end of the year.  My question is - does the plan document require a description of the employee allocation groups, or are the groups totally flexible and discretionary from year to year.  (I realize ACP, discrim and coverage testing must pass.)  It seems the plan document does not have to say anything specific - no limit on deferrals matched, no match rate, no period and no mention of employee group descriptions.  Is this right?

    Thank you!

    Tom


    K-1 Compensation For An S-Corp

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    Good morning, I have a potential new client where all of the employees (owners and non-owners) are paid via a K-1 (or so I've been told).  A few questions:

    1. Can this be included as income for a retirement plan?
    2. If yes, I assume the fact that it's a K-1 income doesn't change that all employees would have to be included (someone is making the argument that since it's K-1, we could set up a plan just for the owners.  I disagree, but I wanted to confirm)

    Thanks everyone!


    Self-directed IRA / Prohibited Services to Plan Asset

    KEM
    By KEM,

    Say an individual's self-directed IRA owns a business, and the individual is curious which (if any) services he can provide to the business (ex. offer consulting services).  Question is, does this run afoul of the prohibited transaction rules?  I'm thinking yes, with respect to Code Sec. 4975(c)(1)(C) - because it would involve a disqualified person furnishing services to a plan asset (akin to the individual being prohibited from providing free labor/repairs to an investment property owned by the self directed IRS).  

    Curious if others agree, or have other thoughts.


    Excess employer contributions to SIMPLE IRA since 2007

    gc@chimentowebb.com
    By gc@chimentowebb.com,

    Since 2007 the company has matched the owner's deferrals in a SIMPLE IRA, violating the 3% compensation cap on matches. With earnings, the excess employer contributions cumulate to $300,000.

    EPCRS states that the excess should be returned to the employer and should not be deducted. (The employee, the 100% shareholder, will then get a 1099-R for the $300,000 showing zero as taxable.) The employer, a sub-S, will report the $300,000 refund as income in 2022, the year of receipt, and it will be taxed to the 100% shareholder of the Sub-S as ordinary income in 2022.

    All good, so far, but what does it mean in EPCRS that the employer shall take no deduction? Does that mean that corporate returns that claimed a deduction for the excess employer contributions since2007 should be amended? That's impossible. It seems too good to be true that the excess just gets returned to the Sub-S with taxes due in 2022 on the $300,000 refund and no other penalty or sanction.

    Another possibility, when returns cannot be amended to disallow deductions for 15 years of excess contributions, may be to leave the excess employer contributions and associated earnings  in the SIMPLE IRA and to pay the 10% sanction in EPCRS. This is listed as an alternate correction, but may be the only available one in these circumstances.

    I may ask for a no-names conference with IRS under the new procedures. Any experience with excess contributions to a SIMPLE going back this far? Any thoughts?


    401(a)(26) and Frozen Cash Balance Plan

    Lou S.
    By Lou S.,

    Cash Balance Plan freezes all contribution credits and new entrants into the Plan. The Plan is top-heavy. The Plan is covered by the PBGC.

    The question I have is when it it considered underfunded for the exception to 401(a)(26) to apply?

    Does the AFTAP have to be less then 100%?

    If the AFTAP is greater than 100% but assets are less than the sum of the notional accounts is that sufficient to be considered underfunded?

    If the assets are less than what is required for the Plan to complete a Standard Termination under the PBGC rules is that sufficient?

    To throw out some hypothetical numbers assume

    Plan Funding Target (@95% corridor of ARP stabilized rates) $510K

    Plan Funding Target (@105%corridor of ARP stabilized rates) $490K

    Plan Assets (MV @ valuation date) $500K

    Sum of Participant Account Balances $530K

    PVAB for PBGC Premiums $600K


    Roth IRA - Spousal Beneficiary & 5-year clock

    Dobber
    By Dobber,

    How does the 5-year clock work upon a surviving spouse (sole beneficiary) inheriting a Roth IRA?

    For example,
    Deceased spouse, 74, died earlier this year (2022)
    Surviving spouse, 66, 100% primary beneficiary

    The surviving spouse has the following options:
    I am trying to wrap my head around the 5-year clock in re: to each of these options.

    1. She can roll it into her current Roth IRA (treat it as her own) - Does the surviving spouse get the longer of - Clock in her own (previously established Roth) or the inherited Roth?
    2 She can create a new inherited Roth IRA -Does she continue the 5-year clock? Or does it start anew because its now an inherited IRA?
    3. She can treat the inherited Roth as as her own - Again, how does the 5-year clock work? Does she get the benefit of the years her husband held the account ?

    Unrelated to the Roth clock -

    Is there a situation where a surviving spouse would be subject to RMDs from an inherited Roth IRA?

     

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