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Dependent Child Care
Plan Termination/Merger
Fully vested participant takes out DB plan loan, but ceases to make payments upon termination of employment. DB terminates shortly thereafter and merges with PS. Participant was told at the time that the outstanding loan would be deducted from the balance before the transfer. However, participant later learns that the defaulted loan was transferred to PS and continued to accrue interest until termination of PS 8 years later.
I heard that there is a rule or reg. somewhere that does not allow the transfer of a loan in default from one qualified plan to another. Is this correct, and if so, where can I find it?
Plan Reimbursement of Plan Sponsor
In light of Field Assistance Bulletin 2003-3, Plan Sponsor would like to charge applicable plan expenses to severed, vested participants who leave their money in the plan, but pay all other plan expenses itself. For administrative convenience, Plan Sponsor would like to pay plan expenses as follows: (a) Plan Sponsor would pay all plan expenses throughout the year; (b) at year end, accounts of severed, vested participants would be charged a pro-rata share of expenses; © the plan would reimburse the Plan Sponsor for the amount in (b) by writing a check to the Plan Sponsor. I am concerned about step ©, and specifically concerned that it is a prohibited transaction for which no exemption exists. For example, one could characterize the Plan Sponsor's advance payment of expenses as a loan to the Plan. Furthermore, while there is a prohibited transaction exemption for reimbursement of direct expenses incurred by a fiduciary in providing services to the plan, in the situation outlined above the Plan Sponsor is not providing services, it's just paying plan expenses, so I'm not sure the exemption applies. Does anyone have authority indicating whether the above method of paying plan expenses is or is not acceptable?
Eligible Dependent
I have a client who is wondering if he can claim his biological daughter's expenses for braces. The tricky part is that his 14 year old daughter is from a previous marriage and the mom has custody. He is currently not claiming the daughter on his taxes. Although, he does pay for her health insurance. Can he still get reimbursed for her orthodontia or not?
Tax Effect of Modified caf plan
My question, hopefully appropriate here is if there is a potential for premium tax to be attached to a benefits plan (dental and vision) where the plan is using a hybrid form of insurance. That is, is a governmental entity contracts with the carrier(s) for admin (claims processing, network, actuarial svs and banking services [banking services meaning that the money is held with the carrier, interest credit is paid on the money by carrier], and the carrier is contracted as the stop loss insurer, but the primary potential funding and risk is held by the governmental entity, (this includes including reserve and IBNR risk). My general understanding is that governmental plans in general are shielded from taxation (loosely put). I'm trying to clarify if this there is a premium tax impact (in general) for 1) the type of arrangement described 2) if there is a tax impact, would using a carrier who is a not-for-profit entity. My concern is if under our modified caf plan, would there be a new tax consequence for employees or the employer by creating this hybrid structure (thorugh premium tax assessment or other tax) . The reason for the hybrids form has to do how the contracting would have to be done. Any tips, suggests or other direction would be greatly appreciated.
Loan online
Does anyone have a solution for this scenario:
In an online daily valued environment, employee requests the "maximum amount available" online (e.g., 50% of vested account). System calculates amount avail. based on prior night's unit values and gives amortization and all Reg. Z disclosure. Employee approves the loan for processing and direct deposit to account. At the end of the day, the market drops and the loan amount would now exceed the 50% vested value.
Example: Ee. has $40,000 vested and requests 50%.($20,000 modeled,
disclosed and accepted for processing by ee.) That night, the market drops
and the person's account drops to $38,000.. new maximum amount available is
$19,000, which is different than amounts disclosed on screen at point of approval.
Any solutions out there? What process do you follow?
Thanks
Oscar
In-Service Withdrawals (under 59 1/2)
Our current Prototype allows for in-service distributions under 59 1/2 for match and profit sharing. Is there any material out there that may discuss the pro's and cons of 1) actually choosing that option for a plan or 2) benefits/drawbacks for participants?
Your thoughts are appreciated.
Top Heavy determination
We are in the process of reviewing a 12/31/01 Top Heavy test in order to determine if a Top-Heavy minimum needs to be made for the 2002 plan year. This plan changed from a 10/31 PYE to a 12/31 PYE in 2001.
At both 10/31/01 and 12/31/01 the following amounts were receivable:
10/31/01 Profit Sharing Contribution
12/31/01 3% Top Heavy Minimum
My question is, what of the 2 contributions above need to be included in the 12/31/01 Top-Heavy test? One opinion is to exclude both contributions since they were receiveable at 12/31/01. I can see excluding the 10/31/01 P/S from the 10/31/01 Top-Heavy determination, but can it also be excluded from the 12/31/01 since it is really the next plan year? Also, can the Top Heavy contribution be excluded since it is a required contribution?
Any input would be appreciated.
15 Year of Service Catch-up ?
the age 50 catch-up provides that if an employee has or will attain age 50 during the tax year, that the catch-up can be used. Is the same true for utilization for the 15 years of service catch-up? Can it be used in the tax year 15 years will be attained, or must one wait until the actual employment anniversary before utilizing this catch-up?
#1 Complaint of 403(b) K-12 TPAs
at the Missouri Association of School Business Officials was that one gatekeeper was working as a common remitter, but the employees sought to have their paychecks reflect how much money went specifically to each specific 403(b) vendors, as opposed to having illustrated one explanation of dollars deferred to the 403(b) TPA remitter.
Reality of IRS Audits of 403(b) Plans
it appears that States who have State retirement programs which are not FICA states may have less of a chance for audit. Has anyone seen anything to the contrary? It appears that for the effort, the Service isn't going to want to spend the man-hours and dollars to audit a public K-12 plan if all they can expect to recover is 1.45% Medicare withholding.
Comments welcomed.
Serial Loans
at the Missouri Association of School Business Officials, two IRS agents (one from Kansas, the other from Iowa) discussed serial loans. The fact pattern presented was what if the employee had multiple contracts with multiple vendors--making contributions to each, but only having a serial loan with one of the vendors. The IRS responed (incorrectly I think) that tif a participant in a public K-12 had defaulted on a number of loans with one vendor, and they deemed the situation a serial loan situation, that ALL the 403(b) contributions made by that employee to ANY vendor could be subject to FICA and Medicare W/H.
It was always my opinion that in the event of a serial loan, the only contract affected was that of the specific vendor contract(s) with the deemed serial loan. Yet the Service indicated that ALL contributions to ALL vendors would be subject to withholding.
Anyone want to take a stab at this?
Dental and vision insurance - premium tax
My question, hopefully appropriate here is if there is a potential for premium tax to be attached to a benefits plan (dental and vision) where the plan is using a hybrid form of insurance. That is, is a governmental entity contracts with the carrier(s) for admin (claims processing, network, actuarial svs and banking services [banking services meaning that the money is held with the carrier, interest credit is paid on the money by carrier], and the carrier is contracted as the stop loss insurer, but the primary potential funding and risk is held by the governmental entity, (this includes including reserve and IBNR risk). My general understanding is that governmental plans in general are shielded from taxation (loosely put). I'm trying to clarify if this there is a premium tax impact (in general) for 1) the type of arrangement described and 2) if there is a tax impact, would using a carrier who is a not-for-profit entity. The reason for the hybrids form has to do how the contracting would have to be done. h Any tips, suggests or other direction would be greatly appreciated ![]()
Statutory Exclusions
Say you have eligibility requirements of 3 months/21 years and quarterly enrollments. If you want to use statutory exclusions for their discrimination test, can you exclude an employee who was hired in 1999 and never worked 1000 hours? Or do you go by the hire date and you can't exclude the employee? Thank you!!
Who owns it?
Bob has had a Profit sharing Keogh for years.
ABC Inc. is the Trustee and Plan Administrator.
The assets are held in custodianship at XYZ Inc., a brokerage clearing firm.
The account is titled:
Bob Doe P/S Keogh w/ ABC Inc, Trustee
Who "owns" the account? Is it Bob Doe? Or is it ABC, Inc. who owns it FBO of Bob Doe?
If Bob Doe passes away is it the account of a deceased person? Or is it viewed as the account of the Trustee?
Thank you
Distribution Prior to a Plan restating to egtrra
If a distribution(Match) is processed for a participant prior to a plan restating to EGTRRA, should the old vesting schedule be used or should the 6yr graded be used.
Surrender of Life Insurance w/i P/S Plan
A plan that is participat directed holds several life insurance policies. Participants have investment direction and want to surrender these policies. While I have seen many messages regarding life insurance in the threads regarding similar situations, they lead me to believe they surrender these policies at cash value and the participants use the proceeds to purchase mutual funds within the plan. Is this correct? Are there any tax consequences we should be aware of with the insurance surrender? Thank you for your help in advance.
owners of professional corporation
can stockholders in a professional corporation be in a cafeteria plan? or would they be prohibited as self-employed? If they owned 10 percent or more, would they be prohibited?
Can a participant elect out of loan repayments?
We have a loan provision in our 401k and when the participant endorses the loan check, they agree to pay the loan according to Plan provisions. Our practice (not outlined in the Plan beyond the fact that "the committee may adopt reasonable loan procedures") is to withhold monthly loan repayments via automatic payroll deductions.
Can an employee elect out of making these loan repayments? In this case, she is willing to accept the eventual default. In the past, our position is that an employee cannot elect out of loan repayments as long as they are receiving a regular paycheck.
Does the DOL have anything to say about this?
Thanks for your help.
Are Revenue Sharing Fees Part of Plan Assets?
A while back, I posted a thread that asked, among other things, if revenue sharing fees could be used to offset plan expenses in 401(k) plans (see http://www.benefitslink.com/boards/index.p...649&hl=revenue).
Both Jon Chambers and Mojo were kind of enough to respond and provide some great information. Both suggested that the revenue sharing fees could be used to offset "plan expenses", but not "settlor expenses". A reference was made to the Frost National Bank DOL ruling, which I checked out.
It all follows that revenue sharing cannot be used to offset "settlor expenses" IF revenue sharing fees are considered to be part of the plan assets. My question is this; are ALL revenue sharing fees (including 12b-1, sub-TA, and Finder's Fees) considered to be part of plans assets? Someone in our office maintains that revenue sharing fees might NOT be considered to be part of plan assets, and hence could be used to pay settlor expenses.
If anyone could refer me to anything from the code or DOL starting that revenue sharing fees are considered parts of plan assets, that would be even better!
Thanks.







