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Form 5558 Extension / Change in Plan Sponsor
Greetings - Plan Sponsor (and plan name) was changed effective 1/1/2019 via a plan amendment.
We need to file a 5558 extension for the 5500, for plan year ending 12/31/10. We have changed who the plan sponsor is since the last 5500, so I am not sure if the old or the new plan sponsor should file the extension. While Form 5500 has a place to provide for a chance in plan name, Form 5558 does not
My gut tells me to file Form 5558 under the current (new) Plan Sponsor and check the box under #1 that this is the first Form 5500 for the plan listed above.
As an aside, would the new plan sponsor also need to file Form 8822-B to Report Change in Identity of Responsible Party?
Seems like a simple issue, but one that I can see the IRS having an issue with.
Thank you!
Dual Eligibility and Testing Requirements?
My client is setting up a safe harbor 401(k) plan with a SH matching contribution and wants to implement dual eligibility, that is, allow participants to defer immediately into the plan but require one year of service in order to receive the match? Is there any concern in having dual eligibility?” How would you test these dual eligibility groups each year? What complications would you see in implementing a plan like this?
SHNE plus non-vested PS
401(k) plan has SHNE plus profit sharing. General test. I year eligibility
New entrant leaves after 3 months of participation. Profit sharing is 0% vested under 6 year vesting schedule.
Does the profit sharing piece have to be vested to count in the general test?
QDRO - Date of Valuation
This is related to QDRO- I need to know understand what the “date of valuation for distribution to the Alternate Payee” means. Is it the date funds are deposited to the Alternate Payee account? Also, I would like to know what would be the time frame between the date of segregation and the date of valuation for distribution to the Alternate Payee.
Distribution and Loan Offset Exceeds $100,000 limit
Let's say a participant has $80,000 in their 401k. He also has a $40,000 loan. The participant is terminated due to COVID and would like to take a full distribution. He's under 59 1/2. Since the limit for COVID distribution is $100,000, how would you process this request? The participant chose to have no taxes withheld on the COVID distribution and my understanding is that Code "2" is used for COVID distributions if the participant is under 59 1/2.
So, I'm thinking we process the request as follows:
The loan Offset of $40,000 is processed under Code 2.
$60,000 of the distribution amount is processed under Code 2 (with no Federal Tax withholding)
The remaining $20,000 of the distribution amount is processed under Code 1 (with Federal Tax withholding) because the $100,000 limit has been reached.
Would you agree?
ACP Calculation for Discretionary Match stopped mid year
If the employer chose to stop their discretionary match mid year, would the compensation for determining ACP testing also only be for the period of time the match occurred during the year or is full Plan Year compensation always used?
I seem to be having the hardest time being able to confirm this.
Employee deferral processed outside of payroll
Is it okay for one employees deferral to be processed outside of regular payroll (appx. a week after everyone else's)? This was an HCE who decided to max out their deferrals at the beginning of 2020 for the 2019 plan year.
Notifying IRS if TIN no longer active?
Since I have virtually no information to go on, this question may not make any sense. A governmental employer who has a "deferred compensation" plan - I'm guessing a 457(b)??? is apparently either changing or terminating the plan, whatever the plan is. We got a call out of the blue asking how they notify the IRS that the TIN will be "inactive."
I don't work with governmental 457 plans, or any other governmental "deferred compensation" plans for that matter, if there are such things.
Does anyone have any idea if there is a required notification to the IRS of such a TIN becoming inactive? I believe if a corporation terminates/dissolves there is a notification process involving the corporate EIN, but that's a different matter.
Thanks in advance, if you know anything about this.
Entity in Controlled Group revoking Safe Harbor
A controlled group is made up of two entities and one of the entities would like to revoke Safe Harbor mid year.
All the HCEs are in the entity that is revoking Safe Harbor.
How would the 2020 Coverage Test be performed for the 401(m) portion? Are all the NHCEs considered as benefitting due to the Safe Harbor for the partial year?
Any feedback is appreciated!
COVID Distribution - Partial Pay Back in 2020
A participant takes a $100,000 COVID distribution.
The participant is rehired in July and is able to repay $75,000 of the $100,000 by the end of 2020. Assume he does not make any additional repayments in 2021 or 2022.
Is his $100,000 still divided by 3, for a taxable distribution amount of $33,333 in 2020, 2021, and 2022, and uses the $75,000 to reduce each year's liability, (so $0 in 2020, 0 in 2021, and $25,000 in 2022)?
Or is the entire $100,000 reduced to $25,000 in 2020 and he pays $8,333 in 2020, 2021, and 2022?
The first way does not seem to make much sense unless you consider that if it is handled in that manner than if he does make additional payments in 2021 he would not need to amend his 2020 tax return since he would not have paid any taxes on the distribution in that year, whereas in the second method he would need to amend his 2020 return to recoup the taxes paid on the $8,333.
I hope this is not a ridiculous question.
Thanks.
Circular 230 Ethics
We have recently taken over a plan from another TPA. Client has notified TPA and asked the transaction be handled as smoothly as possible. Client can not find some documents and the prior TPA is charging him a fee to copy the documents from TPAs file.
We have run into this situation very few times, the last time I believe Circular 230 had been mentioned, and the client told the request for a duplication fee is prohibited under Circular 230.
I can not find the exact reference in Circular 230.
401a4 failure
Hi all
Taking over a combo plan for 2019.
Received information on 2018 so that I can check the 2018 test and based on my calculations, does not pass. I have questioned this and waiting for an explanation.
However, if there is a failure on 401a4, is this a self correction and if it is where can I find it? May be late in the day, just cannot find it.
The failure is to provide the minimum gateway. It would have been thru additional profit sharing allocation as DB allocation is set.
If the gateway was provided correctly, 401(a)(4) would have passed with no issues.
Thank you
Maryland Mandatory State Tax Rate
The Maryland State mandatory tax withholding has been 7.75% as long as I can remember. However, we recently were notified that the mandatory percentage is now higher for 401k withdrawals. Does anyone know what the new state withholding for Maryland is?
Thank you.
TPA as Trustee in Plan Document
Do any TPAs list themselves as Trustee in their client's plan document if they provide Administrative "trustee" services, such as benchmarking fees, confirming deposit of contributions in the plan, signing off on distributions, etc.? This is not 3(16) services. If there is a service agreement in place with such services indicated, what is the benefit of putting the information in the plan document?
QRP - qualified replacement plans and fees paid from plan assets
Hi all
PS plan is utilized as a QRP and has both the QRP assets as well as PS assets. Let's say balance are 50/50. All assets are comingled and pooled so no individual accounts.
Clients pays x amount annual fees from the plan assets.
Can the fee be split 50/50 i.e. 50% deducted from the QRP balances and 50% deducted from the PS balances?
Thank you
CARES Act Distribution from Gov't 457(b)
Could an Qualified Individual take a CARES Act distribution from a governmental 457 plan and repay that distribution over the next 3 years to the same governmental entity's defined benefit plan rather than the 457 plan? I believe so based on the language below, but want to see if anyone has any different thoughts.
(A) IN GENERAL.—Any individual who receives a coronavirus-related distribution may, at any time during the 3-year period beginning on the day after the date on which such distribution was received, make 1 or more contributions in an aggregate amount not to exceed the amount of such distribution to an eligible retirement plan of which such individual is a beneficiary and to which a rollover contribution of such distribution could be made under section 402(c), 403(a)(4), 403(b)(8), 408(d)(3), or 457(e)(16), of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as the case may be.
CRD from previous ER's Plan after layoff from current ER
We have a former participant who left our client for non-COVID-19 related reasons and started working for another employer. That employer just laid her off. Can she now seek a distribution from her former employer's plan because she's been laid off from her current employer?
SHNEC and Additional ER Contribution
Plan makes a 3% SHNEC contribution-all ees receive contribution
Plan makes a 4% ER PS contribution-this contribution has a last day/hours requirement. Not all EEs receive.
For 410(b), it is my understanding that all ER contributions must be tested together. Since all ees are not receiving the same allocation rate (due to last day/hours), this triggers the need for a 401(a)(4) rate group test. In reading through the EOB, it seems that if you can pass 410(b) on each source separately, then you are ok. What is the best approach to solving this? You need to run the 410b on an aggregated basis, but then run separately to satisfy the rate group? Or do you aggregate and go to rate group testing?
How do these rules come into plan when you have a ER PS allocation and a Top Heavy minimum?
Example: ER has 1000 hours/ last day. Employee is employed on last day, but does not met hours. This EE receives a Top Heavy min contribution of 3%, but not the ER allocation is 4%. Does the same logic apply to this situation as it does to the SHNEC/ER allocation?
Forfeitures
I'm embarrassed to even be asking this question, but I've managed to twist myself around on a very simple question. Profit sharing plan, forfeitures can pay expenses or be used to reduce employer's contribution. Forfeitures are NOT reallocated.
Participant terminates in 2020, receives full distribution, so forfeiture occurs during 2020, for the 2020 plan year. Can this forfeiture be used to reduce the 2019 plan year profit sharing contribution deposit that is made in 2020?
Looking out at the snow blowing by the window is freezing my brain.
More money for Paycheck Protection Program
Here's a text of the Senate-passed bill.
Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care Enhancement Act bill.pdf













