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    Ineligible 401k employer - VCP to 401a?

    beartd
    By beartd,

    I have a governmental employer who has a 401k plan.  Has anyone successfully used EPCRS to ask the IRS to allow a conversion from a 401k to a 401(a) Plan? I am hopeful that the IRS wont disqualify the plan and will work with us to get the plan type corrected.  I plan on submitting an anonymous VCP application asking for them to allow a retroactive amendment to change the plan type from 401k to 401(a) but am open to suggestions. 

     


    Safe Harbor Match with Discretionary Match

    Will.I.Am
    By Will.I.Am,

    I have a question. The Erisa Handbook tells you that you need to combine the match under both the safe harbor formula (basic formula; 100% of first 3%, 50% of next 2%) and the discretionary match to see if it meets the ACP safe harbor requirements. I don't really understand why. Basically I want to know if someone defers 5% and a plan does the basic safe harbor match formula but also wants to do a 100% of the first 4% discretionary match, would ACP testing have to be done or does it meet the ACP Safe Harbor Requirements?

    I guess my question is do you apply the 6% rule (matching contributions may not be made with respect to elective deferrals in excess of 6% of comp) independently to the discretionary match, or do you have to combine the safe harbor and the discretionary together and then apply the 6% rule?


    Company wants me to fund my own QNEC after test failure -- I'm a partner

    calexbraska
    By calexbraska,

    My company reached out to me letting me know they failed discrimination testing and, as a result, had to give me additional profit sharing contributions.  That makes sense, but they also said I am required to fund it out of pocket.  Normally, it would be up to the company to fund this, but I'm a partner at my company.  They've already funded it, but they are requesting a reimbursement.

    Is this correct?  Am I required to fund this?  


    PBGC Annual Premium Payment Letters - peeve

    mwyatt
    By mwyatt,

    Not sure if others have run across this recently, but have had a couple clients receiving letters acknowledging that the Comprehensive Premium Filing has been transmitted, but that their records indicate that a premium balance is owed.  In most recent case, we uploaded XML file 5/31/2018 and sent in paper check with voucher on the same date.  Letter is dated 6/10/2018, but when I look on Account History premium has been credited (with 5/31/2018 date, so can't actually tell when posted).  Have to waste time dealing with client's obvious concern that premium hasn't been received, when the PBGC system shows is all settled.  I can see sending this letter out if a month has transpired, but 10 days seems to be generating needless worry.

     


    Over 404 but not 415 limit

    pensionam
    By pensionam,

    I have a client who has already filed their corporate tax return and is over the 404 limit.  I've never ran into this situation before but after doing further research, it appears as though they need to amend their corporate tax return as well as pay a 10% excise tax on the amount they went over by.  They are a calendar year plan so the plan year we are working on right now is 2017.  Unfortunately, all of the Profit Sharing contribution was deposited in 2017.  The part I'm getting hung up on is what happens with the overage.  Does it get applied to the 2018 plan year or does it have to be applied to 2017 since although it's over the 404 limit, it wouldn't be over the 415 limit?  If it has to be applied to 2017, can they still take the deduction in 2018 since they weren't able to for 2017?


    Mid-Year Termination of Safe Harbor Top Heavy Plan

    ERISAAPPLE
    By ERISAAPPLE,

    I searched prior Q&As on this board but didn't find an answer.  I have a client with a top-heavy plan that has the 3% Safe Harbor QNEC.  The plan year and limitation year are the calendar year.  If the client properly terminates the plan mid-year in 2018 (e.g, plan passes ADP etc.), would the top heavy contribution be required on compensation accrued up until the date of the plan termination or compensation paid for the entire 2018 calendar year? 


    Active participant withdrawal from DC rollover in DB plan allowed?

    Manatee
    By Manatee,

     

    We have several small DB plans here that have had balances from terminated DC plans rolled into them (prior to my time here).  The plans do have provisions to accept rollovers.  There does not appear to be any specific language regarding the eventual distribution of the rollover money, aside from an election to exclude it from amounts considered for purposes of small automatic cash-outs.  The rollover money has always been treated as an account balance unrelated to the DB calculations, and RMDs from the rollover have been based on the account balance method (correct according to a 2009 thread here).

    I have two questions:

    1) Absent any plan language about in-service withdrawals, may the participants access their rollover money without terminating, retiring, or receiving RMDs?

    2) Is there any advantage to this over simply rolling the DC balance directly into an IRA?  I understand this might be desirable if someone wants to use their DC money to increase their annuity from a DB plan (assuming the DB plan provides for this), but I don’t see the advantage to attaching it to the DB plan if it’s just going to remain an account balance.

     


    Deferrals in a short plan year

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    The client has an initial plan year of 9/1/2017 through 12/31/2017;  are the participant deferrals prorated at all.  Or if they defer $18,000 in the 4 months - are they ok since it's an annual limit per participant?

    Thanks


    what is "retired" for purposes of required minimum distributions

    TaxLawyer1978
    By TaxLawyer1978,

    Reg. 1.409(a)(9)-2 provides that minimum required distributions out of a qualified plan (e.g. 401(k)) must begin April 1 of the calendar year following the later of the calendar year in which the employee turns 70 1/2 or the calendar year in which the employee retires from employment with the employer.  The term "retirement" is not defined for purposes of 401(a)(9).  

    If a law firm partner is still technically a partner in a firm, but doing hardly any work, is he considered "retired"? Or does retirement mean actual total termination of employment?


    Employee Contributions from Off-Cycle Bonus Pay

    jaxon1225
    By jaxon1225,

    Client has provided employees with bonuses at year-end for many years.  While the plan document states that W2 compensation is eligible plan compensation, the client did not withhold employee deferrals from the bonus pays as they would with any normal payroll.  Instead, because employee feedback was that most employees did not want employee deferrals withheld, the client began communicating that employee deferrals would not be withheld unless the employee completed an election form specific to the bonus pay.  Each year, only about 3% of employees completed the election form. 

    Would a QNEC be required for employees that did not have employee deferrals withheld from the bonus pay?  To your knowledge, how far back would the corrections need to go?

    Thank you.

     


    Can we reinstate a terminated plan?

    ESI2015
    By ESI2015,

    Client sponsored a 401k plan and terminated that plan a couple of years ago for various reasons.

    All participants were properly fully vested and received a complete distribution - with the exception of one.

    There is one remaining participant that still has plan assets in a brokerage account that have not yet been paid out.

    Their business situation has changed and they would like to start a new plan.

    However, even though this plan was terminated, it still exists and they continue to file Form 5500. 

    What are their options?  If they finally get this participant paid out, typically they cannot start a new plan for at least 12 months.  Is there any possibility of reinstating the existing plan since it has not yet been fully paid out and a final Form 5500 has not yet been filed?


    Summary of Benefits and Coverage (SBC)

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    From my less than exhaustive research on this, it appears that it is required for a stand-alone HRA. If the HRA is integrated with the medical plan, then it is possible to have the health plan SBC cover the HRA as well, but if it doesn't, the HRA will need an SBC. And the SBC requirement doesn't extend to stand-alone "excepted benefits" plans such as dental or vision plans, and many FSA's (if they are HIPAA "excepted benefits").

    Any disagreement? Any other comments welcome as always! Thanks.


    Trustee earns commission, assigns to company. Who pays tax?

    TaxLawyer1978
    By TaxLawyer1978,

    Not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but I have a client who is a professional at a professional service firm.  He serves as trustee to a trust and earns commission for his services as trustee.  By contract, he is required to turn over any commission earned to the professional service firm for which he works.  The trust will issue him a 1099-MISC and the commission is earned by him; however, due to being required to turn over the money, he doesn't get any benefit of the commission.  Does he have to pay taxes on the commissions and report it on his tax return, or can the tax somehow be picked up by his employer?  Does the assignment of income doctrine require that he report the income and pay the tax because he is the one that earned it?  


    Excess 404(a) - IRC 4972

    pensionLifer
    By pensionLifer,

    Employer exceeded the 25% limit for the employer contribution.

    Does the 10% excise tax on the overage apply only if they have filed the corporate tax that includes the full deduction?


    Court Date Tomorrow

    ParticipantPensionLimbo
    By ParticipantPensionLimbo,

    My ex-wife passed away before a QDRO was done.

    The requirement for the QDRO is in the Family court order for my pension only.

    I'm going to request the court/judge remove the need for the QDRO since my ex-wife has passed and we can't move forward to begin a QDRO as originally intended.
    By the way, I spoke to the originally assigned QDRO attorney and he told me that given the complexity of getting a QDRO now, I would essentially lose the entire retirement benefit to legal fees! Huh!?

    Court date is tomorrow - just found this website today!

    Trying to have the court/judge provide a MUCH cheaper solution to getting my pension released without going through Probate and whatever legal gears this QDRO attorney said would eat the entirety of the pension fund!

    Please advise and thank you in advance.

    Best regards,
    Michael D. in California


    Fee for benchmarking study a settlor expense?

    Sabrina1
    By Sabrina1,

    If the plan administrator pays for a benchmarking study, is that fee considered a settlor expense?  Or an administrative expense that can be paid out of plan assets?


    401(k) Plan - spin off?

    401(k)athryn
    By 401(k)athryn,

    I have a plan that includes two members of a controlled group, companies A & B.   They will be splitting the plan to avoid a 2019 audit, which they can do because they are very much two separate companies and two locations.  They will need to be tested together still because they are still a controlled group. 

    The existing plan, covering employees of Company A, will continue to exist, but will be restated as of 8/1/2018 to edit a few details and remove the adopting employer.  There will be a new plan created for Company B and assets will transfer to the new plan. 

    1) Am I correct in calling this a spin-off?

    2) Does this new plan get to be #001 or is it now #002?  I would think #001 because it is the first plan for this particular EIN (of Company B) because Company B was merely an adopting employer of Company A's plan and, therefore, did not have their EIN reported on the Forms.

    3) I read a thread that seemed to indicate that the new plan should be a continuation and restatement of the existing plan.  How can that be if the existing plan is continuing to exist.  Do you restate the existing plan and into two separate plans?

     

    Thank you!

    Kathryn

     


    Non-Electing QCCO Needs Pre-approved 401(k) Document

    Patricia Neal Jensen
    By Patricia Neal Jensen,

    A Non-Electing QCCO (prospective client) needs a pre-approved 401(k) (not 403(b)) plan document.   So far I have not found one.   This is an existing plan using a 401(k) document and doing testing but not filing a 5500.  Their vendor holding the assets wants them on a document with an IRS Letter.   So 2 questions:

    1. Anyone know of a Non-ERISA  (Non-Electing) Church or QCCO document for 401(k) with an IRS Letter?

    2. Suggestions on what to do instead?  Have thought of freezing the 401(k) and starting a Non-Electing 403(b) for which I have a pre-approved document.  Cannot merge the 2 documents but the 401(k) does not file 5500's so might be the best we can do?

    Thanks!


    New Comparability without HCEs

    ldr
    By ldr,

    Hi to all and Happy Father's Day weekend to all the Dads!

    We have a prospect who has a work force of non-owner, non-HCE employees.  In the profit sharing component of their potential 401(k) plan, they would like to favor a manager with a higher contribution than the other employees.  Our thinking at least initially is that since there are no HCEs and no Keys, they should be free to do this.  What are we forgetting to take into consideration?  We are so accustomed to thinking in terms of plans that have both HCEs and Keys as well as non-HCEs and non-Keys that we don't remember if there is anything to conform to when this is not the case.  There must be something - otherwise they might give the favored employee a contribution and nothing to those they don't like.....

    Any thoughts will be appreciated!

     

     


    Resolving data error for audit

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    CPA firm auditing a pension plan of 500 participants has found the goose who lays the golden egg - one participant's data was used in place of another, and they have determined this to be 'major' and necessary to include in their report, even though the effect on the valuation was about 0.75%.  We have identified that a staff editing the data made an inadvertent data error.  May I throw out there if anyone has provided an acceptable reason to the cpa's for such data errors?


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