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    Late Top Heavy Minimum Contributions

    jpokusa
    By jpokusa,

    If an employer fails to deposit a top heavy minimum contribution for a prior year, should form 5330 be filed and an excise tax paid.  If so, it appears it would be shown as a prohibited transaction similar to late deposit of employee deferrals rather than a late required employer contribution under minimum funding standards.


    Question on Employee Stock Option Plan

    TaxLawyer1978
    By TaxLawyer1978,

    A client maintains an employee stock option plan which reads in relevant part as follows: 

    Regular Termination.  If an Optionee ceases to be employed by the Corporation, or by a corporation (or a parent or subsidiary of any such corporation) issuing or assuming a stock option in a transaction to which Section 424(a) of the Code applies, for any reason other than death, disability or termination of his employment by the Corporation other than for Cause, his option shall immediately terminate; provided, however, that the Committee may, in its discretion, allow such option to be exercised (to the extent otherwise exercisable on the date of termination of employment) at any time within three months after the date of termination of employment, unless the option terminates by its original terms (or the Plan otherwise provides for earlier termination) prior to such exercise. 

    NOTE: the error above.  It should read "other than death, disability or termination for Cause" (not "other than for Cause").  Essentially the language excepts regular termination, but is meant to address regular termination so it doesn't say what happens on regular termination.

    Company wants to amend the plan to correct this typo but afraid employee will take position his option doesn't terminate and doesn't have to exercise within 3 months.  Agreement with employee says option is a non-statutory stock option, not an ISO so presumably even if Company allows him to exercise, he may not want to for he would have to pay tax on the spread.

    Suggestions on how to handle? Can the company allow this employee to hold on to his options post-termination?  Per terms of the Plan, option terminates upon the earlier of 10 yrs from grant date or the last date for exercising the option following termination of employment (presumably not addressed by the paragraph above due to the typo).  


    General question

    KEB
    By KEB,

    I'm pretty new on here. It's a great resource, but I do have a question.  Does everyone work alone?  I work for a TPA and we ask our manager or other plan administrators when we have a question. It seems like no one else does that from all the questions I see.


    "Make Up" Match Several Years Later

    Flyboyjohn
    By Flyboyjohn,

    Employer fell on hard times and suspended their match but informally promised participants that when their financial situation improved they would make up the missed matching contributions.

    Employer is now ready to make up the missed matching contributions and several participants are no longer employed.

    Is there a 415 problem with making contributions for participants who have no current compensation so long as the employer designates the contributions as relating to prior years when compensation would fully support the contributions?

    This is a tax exempt employer so there's no 404 deduction issue.

     


    effective dates for ppa restatements

    jeanh
    By jeanh,

    With the DB prototypes finally getting approval letters - what dates should be used for effective date of restatement? 


    PT Question

    Scuba 401
    By Scuba 401,

    2 scenarios -  1) Employee Doctor who is an officer of the medical practice in which he works wants to use IRA funds to purchase closely held REIT (owned by other doctors in the practice.  Practice would rent office space from the REIT.

    2) is a 2% owner of the medical practice wants to do the same as the non-owner.  

    Are these Prohibited Transactions? 

    I think they are conflict of interest PT's as they clearly benefit from the transactions as officer and owner of the medical practice. I do not believe the practice is a disqualified person under 4975.  


    Non-publicly traded company with ESOP is being sold

    katieinny
    By katieinny,

    A non-publicly traded company that is owned 30% by the ESOP and 70% by the founder is being sold. According to the Plan, Participants are entitled to direct the Trustee to vote their share of company stock in the case of a sale of substantially all assets of the business, so it would seem that the sale must be disclosed sooner rather than later.  What does that disclosure consist of? At this stage, we are reluctant to provide more detail than we need to. 


    Treatment of non-deductible contributions

    SoCalActuary
    By SoCalActuary,

    A plan sponsor starts a plan and makes contributions which turn out to be non-deductible because they turn out to have no earned income.  This goes on for two years.

    Year three and four, they have earned income and can deduct part of the contributions made.

    IRS audit of personal and business returns results in denial of deduction for years one and two.  The letter arrives in year five. 

    How do you determine the refunds, given that the non-deductible amounts have now earned substantial investment returns in the trust?  Do you attribute interest to the non-deductible funds?  How and where would that interest be reflected?

    a. One theory is that the funds were invested in a trust that was not tax exempt during the first two years, so the trust should file taxes for that period only.

    b. Another theory is that the trust was tax exempt in intent and did hold tax-deferred assets.  So the non-deductible contributions are the only amounts refunded.

    c. Another theory is that the refund includes income attributed to the non-deductible portion and should be refunded as well, and treated as taxable investment return.

    Since the IRS denial of deduction letter does not instruct how this is to be treated, I look for opinions and precedents.


    Cash Balance Formulas when Earnings Not Known

    ERISAAPPLE
    By ERISAAPPLE,

    How do you advise clients to design their CB formula when they don't know their earnings until after year end?  I am looking particularly at clients that are not corporations, such as partnerships and LLCs taxed as partnerships.  It is a problem because they need to adopt their plan or amend their formula by the end of the year, but they don't really know their earnings until after year end. 


    allocations for 415 purposes on leveraged S-corp ESOP

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    I'm looking at an S-corp ESOP and a 401(k) - two separate plans, handled by two separate TPA's. The ESOP TPA is saying that there's a 415 violation, and refunds of "X" must be made.

    I think it is partially true, but I want to make sure I'm not all wet. The allocations under the ESOP, for 415 purposes, are showing as (pick a number - say $800,000) but the repayment of principal and interest on the loan, which is the total contribution, is, say, $700,000. As I read 1.415(c)-1(f)(2), for 415 purposes only, the allocations under the ESOP should be based on the $700,000, not the $800,000. This would reduce, but not eliminate, the 415 violations.

    As an aside, share prices are higher than before, so can't use the special exception for using devalued shares.

    Am I missing anything on this?


    April 2018 rates

    SoCalActuary
    By SoCalActuary,

    Consideration of a payout by May 31, 18 or delay until June.

    Looking for the April 2018 published rates for 417(e), to see if there is interest rate arbitrage issues.

    Does anyone know the published April 2018 rates?


    S Corp Saving Plan (Q or NQ)

    HJ
    By HJ,

    For a S Corp owner making $300k per year, what is his best option in saving money for himself and getting a tax advantage?  Is it a qualified plan that involves profit sharing or can there be a NQ plan that gets funded thru a bonus he gives himself?  I am looking for answers that include examples using numbers.


    Safe harbor match plus discretionary match

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    This subject always gives me fits. Suppose a plan is utilizing a basic safe harbor match, and in addition wants to provide a discretionary 100%  match on deferrals in excess of 5% up to no more than 8%. So 8% deferral gets you a 7% match.

    Since deferrals in excess of 6% are being matched, it blows the ACP safe harbor. But do you have to test the ENTIRE match for ACP, or just the match in excess of 4%? I've heard and read different opinions, and it seems that 1.401(m)-2(a)(5)(iv) allows you to choose? The subject ain't as clear as I would like. Would be interested in any opinions. Thanks. (P.S. - this is actually a 403(b) plan, but I put this question in the 401(k) forum, since this is where it always seems to come up)


    Looking up search results

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    When I do a search, it comes up with a bunch of results. So I click on one of those results, and read it. When I'm done, how do I get back to the search results? When I hit the "back" button it takes me all the way back to the Forum, and I have to re-enter the search parameter. I'm sure there is a simpler way! Thanks.


    Retirees, Working but not Much

    Mr Bagwell
    By Mr Bagwell,

    I need some ideas...

    Have a lawyer practice 401k plan that is starting to have retirees.  I think the ownership group would like to NOT give the safe harbor and profit sharing to the retirees.  It sounds like the retirees will be doing some work, just not a lot of work and will be paid via the Employer in normal fashion.  I suggested maybe considering the retirees as 1099 employees. But, ER is not sure.

    I am just starting the brain storm stage.

    Any ideas? 

    Can the plan exclude the retirees the plan year after "retiring"?  I hate to use the word termination, because they are not terminated, they just work way less now.

    I don't think the plan could exclude by name... could be wrong.  I don't see where a class would work, but maybe....

    Thanks


    412e3 (or 412i)

    cdavis25
    By cdavis25,

    Can a 412e3 plan be terminated and the annuity contract distributed to the participant without giving that participant any other distribution option available under the plan?  The advisor is saying the contract has all the distribution options built into it and the participant can just take a distribution later.  This is a PBGC cover plan and will fill for termination with them. 


    Basic SHM & Dual Eligibility

    certified3006
    By certified3006,

    I have a plan that currently has a basic safe harbor match.  Deferrals and SH have same eligibility of age 21 & 1 year w/1000 hours.  They want to change deferral eligibility to immediate upon date of hire, but leave the SHM eligibility as is.  Is this allowed?  If so, can this be changed mid-year or must it be effective 1/1/2019?


    Need to file short plan year 2018 5500

    ESOP Guy
    By ESOP Guy,

    I had an ESOP paid the final benefits in April of 2018.  So the final 2018 5500 is due 11/30/2018.  We obviously don't have the 2018 forms.  Something in the back of my mind says you can use the 2017 forms.  I guess I can extend and by early 2019 we will have the forms but since the company was purchased no one wants to hang around to sign the forms almost a year from now. 

    I just can't seem to find it in the 5500 instructions saying we can use the 2017 forms in this case. 

    Is my memory faulty or does someone know where it is written saying we can use a 2017 form?

    Thanks


    Exemption from ERISA Bond?

    justanotheradmin
    By justanotheradmin,

    Are PBGC plans exempt from an ERISA bond? 

    Specifically asking about small DB plans that typically would not be subject to audit if the bond requirement is met. 

    Does anyone have a citation for an answer? 


    Adding a Participating Employer

    John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA
    By John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA,

    Takeover of an existing 401(k) plan on a vol sub document. The plan has 500 hours but no last day requirement for its discretionary pro-rata profit sharing formula. The owner's spouse has a business with no employees, just self-employed, but is not a participating employer in the plan. They are a group under common control, they do not meet the spousal exception.

    They want to add the spouse's business to the plan as a participating employer, but want the profit sharing allocation under that business to be a different percentage. Meaning the plan sponsor can allocate X% but the newly added employer could allocate Y%.

    Issues?


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