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    Loan Default and Correction

    cs771
    By cs771,

    Good Morning -

    Can someone please walk me through how to properly correct the following situation:

    Small plan - less than 100 participants determined they were incorrectly reporting loan failures.  The loan would default due to the participant separating from service and the sponsor would offset the loan once there was a distribution of the account.  Sometimes it was in the current year and sometimes it was 5 years down the road.  There are several participants who terminated employment several years ago and they are trying to properly tax report on these loans.  My understanding is you can self-correct on those loans that are within the three-year statute of limitations by reporting on a 1099-R in the year of the failure.  Those that are beyond the statute of limitations would need to go under VCP to request 1099-R reporting in the current tax year (those within the statute of limitations could also be reported in the current year as well with IRS approval).  Is this correct?  Now for the real question - I know one can self correct by the end of the second plan year on these loans failures whether an significant or insignificant failure.  My understanding is a determination needs to be made outside this two year window as to whether this is significant or insignificant, correct?  I think I am unsure because the loan corrections under EPCRS are not intuitive to me (but what is).  

     

     

     

     


    Employer missed a deferral

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    Just ran across an interesting situation.

    Employer missed withholding a deferral here and there on several employees. They understand they have to make full missed match plus earnings. However, their correction on the missed deferral piece has been as follows:

    They have simply withheld the missed deferral at a later date (anywhere from next paycheck to several months later).

    I think in "real life" this is acceptable IF the employee does a separate written election to permit it. However, I don't think it is acceptable to do it 6 months later without a written election. Don't know if they have even gotten VERBAL approval, but apparently no one has ever complained.

    How do y'all see this situation handled (if you ever do see this correction method) when the correction falls outside the "normal" SCP corrections? Just curious.


    Missed Deferrals Less Than 3 months

    coleboy
    By coleboy,

    A client missed starting an employee's deferrals and discovered the error less than 3 months later. The plan has a match. I understand that, being 3 months or less, no QNEC is needed but what about the match. Does anything need to be done about the missed match?


    Crediting Extra Service in DB Plan

    CuseFan
    By CuseFan,

    Client has integrated final pay plan that they plan to freeze at end of current year. However, they would also like to credit all active participants as of that time with an additional year of service. So if someone has 20.667 years of credited service (they use elapsed time), they would be bumped up to 21.667. Plan satisfies coverage and integrated formula is 401(l) compliant (1% /.5% at $4800).  Does giving everyone an additional YOS mess up my integration and force me to general test, or am I still safe harbor because everyone gets it? Any other potential traps for concern? 


    Safe Harbor & Participation Comp

    ERISAAPPLE
    By ERISAAPPLE,

    We know you can exclude pre-participation compensation from the safe harbor contribution.  What about post-participation compensation where the employee moves in the same plan year to a position that is not an eligible employee?

    For example, an employee is hired in a non-union position, enters the plan in 2018, and then later in 2018 moves to a union position that is not eligible for the safe harbor.  Can the compensation paid to the employee after the employee moves to the union position be excluded? 

    To phrase the more question more precisely (since everyone is going to ask what the plan says), can the plan provide for such an exclusion (assume all the notice requirements and other requirements of safe harbor are met).  I read the regs to say the comp. can be excluded, but I have just never seen this before.  

     

     


    Solo 401k and QDRO

    Gilmore
    By Gilmore,

    Not sure if this is the correct forum for this question, but...

    Owner only 401(k), assets under $250k, has not filed 5500s.

    Owner in the process of divorce, anticipating a QDRO.

    If the plan doc allows the ex-spouse to establish an account in the plan and leave the funds in the plan, would I be correct that the plan is no longer a solo 401k and would require a 5500?

    What if the ex-spouse does distribute the funds, but it takes 30 or 60 days to do so.  Does that period of time require that a 5500 be filed?

    Thanks.


    Mid-year Amendment to a Safe Harbor Plan

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Do we all agree that based on IRS Notice 2016-16, I can amend the Plan to exclude certain items of compensation?

    I will send out an SMM at least 30 days in advance, but because the definition of comp is not required safe harbor notice content I probably don't even need to do that.

    Agreed?


    How to Create 8955-SSA File for FIRE System

    JMH ERISA
    By JMH ERISA,

    I have an ERISA 403(b) plan client who has asked for help filing Form 8955-SSA, and they are subject to the electronic filing requirement for this return (must submit via the FIRE system). 

    I know how to prepare this form but it is not one of my normal services through my consulting business so I do not have the software to create a properly formatted file that I could then submit via FIRE.  I can't seem to find any software to create the file that isn't part of a large (costly) subscription or package.

    Is it possible to create a file without such software?  I found the parameters provided on the IRS website, and it seems difficult.


    Deductibility of 2 Years of Contributions in One Year

    mwyatt
    By mwyatt,

    Calendar year client.  Let's say profit sharing contribution for 2017 is $190,000 which they will deposit to the Plan in 2018.  Similar deposit to be made for the 2018 plan year.

    Issue is that while they want to make the actual deposit of $190,000 for 2017, they do NOT want to deduct on the 2017 corporate tax return, but rather deduct the 2017 and 2018 on the 2018 return.  They did put the 2017 corporate return on extension, so the thinking of they made it within the ordinary time but filed the return before depositing doesn't work.  What are the issues here (would combined 2017 and 2018 amounts be subject to the 2018 404 25% limit solely on 2018 compensation for example).

     


    Family Attribution

    dan.jock
    By dan.jock,

    Ownership is attributed between parents and adult children if the ownership % of one is greater than 50%.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/epchd704.pdf page 12

    So Dad owns 100% of a business with 50 employees.  He starts a 50/50 partnership with his son and takes some clients there and is smart enough to keep the entities very separate in the clients they serve, maybe even a different line of business.

    Assuming the comp is there to support it, Dad has big qualified plan contributions in the side business and since it's less than 80% common ownership, it's not a controlled group and he doesn't have to cover his 50 employees.  This seems like a scenario ripe for abuse.  Where's the catch?


    403(b)/401(k) aggregation REDUX!!! ? New rules?

    scarabrad
    By scarabrad,

    https://www.businessofbenefits.com/2018/03/articles/403b/a-403b-psuedomorph-the-irss-gradual-shift-on-applying-415-limits-to-403b-plans/

    SpiritRider...you've chimed in on this issue time after time and have been very helpful with respect to this issue of aggregating 403(b) contributions with non-affiliated group retirement plans. Do the details in the above article change the rules somewhat, such that there is no longer concern about having to aggregate the total employee + employer limit for a 403(b) participant.

    In prior discussions, you have stated that I am considered an "owner" of my hospital-based 403(b) plan and, as such, would be limited with respect to solo-401k contributions I could make from my side income to a total of $55,000, due to aggregation rules. Does this no longer hold true?

    Anyone else have an opinion.

    Thanks, in advance, to the very smart and informative folks on this board (especially you, SpiritRider!)

    Scarabrad


    Enrollment

    mjf06241972
    By mjf06241972,

    What is the rule on employees enrolling in 401k?  For example, a plan has a July 1st entry date and the payroll is July 1st.  Can an employee hand in an enrollment for on July 5th for the next payroll?  Or is it a hard cut off date of July 1st if that is that they are eligible and then they have to wait until next entry date.

    Thanks.


    Bonding

    Young Curmudgeon
    By Young Curmudgeon,

    I have inherited a plan which has been historically told they do not need a bond since all the participants (four in total) are Trustees.   I do not see an exclusion from the bonding requirement for this situation.   Only three of the Trustees are owners and the plan files full 5500 due to non-qualifying assets.    

    The bonds I have seen do not cover Trustee benefits in the event of a loss so is this the roundabout logic?  Since none of them are protected by a bond, they do not need the bond?

    If the plan were 100% qualifying assets, I would not be concerned.   However,  it is 70% non-qualifying assets.  If they are not exempt from bonding, they will have to get an auditors opinion if caught. Thoughts?  


    empower import files

    Tom Poje
    By Tom Poje,

    I assume the empower imports used with Relius are similar to other software.

    there are a numbers of files I found to be real useful with FT William govt forms. all can be copied and pasted into excel and worked with.

    There is an AHIP file - this contains the schedule of assets data.

     

    the following files all have import files into FT William

    There is a PSD file. this is schedule D data.

    There is a PSA file. this is the schedule A info. this is in a fixed file format, so have to work a little bit with is in excel to get the data into a format for importing.

    PC2 is page 2 of sched C

    PC3 is page 3 of sched C

    Happen to have a MEP of 35 plan or so, and having the ability to copy these files into excel, summing up the totals and then with a small amount of work pasting that data into FT William import file sure saves a lot of time.

    (Along with being able to pull the SSA info from Relius and importing that (this year almost 200 folks for the SSA) really helps.

     


    QNEC & Catch-up

    wifrbr
    By wifrbr,

    Hello,

     

    I plan fails ADP test, instead of doing refunds they decided to make a QNEC.  My question is when calculating the QNEC can I also re-characterize some of the HCE's contribution as catch up.  For example if one HCE,over 50, has $5000 in contributions can I re-characterize this as catch up too bring the HCE avg ADP down and use that # to calculate the QNEC, or do I have to use the HCE ADP avg with all contributions under $18k

     

    Thanks,

     

     


    401k Plan Termination & Successor Plan Rule

    cbendertpa23
    By cbendertpa23,

    A new client has terminated and distributed the assets in a previous 401k plan. Does the 12 month rule begin once the assets have been distributed or once the final 5500 is filed?


    Cross Testing with 2-Year Eligibility

    ERISAAPPLE
    By ERISAAPPLE,

    This is a little complicated, so I will spoon out the facts one by one.

    I have a DC plan with a 401(k), 3% safe harbor QNEC, and new comparability PS - one participant per group.   The plan year is the calendar year.  The plan is top-heavy.  The 3% safe harbor excludes pre-participation comp.

    Eligibility for 401(k) is one year (1000 hours) with semi-annual entry dates (Jan. and Jul.)

    Eligibility for profit sharing is 2 years (1000 hour each year).  Also semi-annual entry dates.

    I am testing for 2017.  One NHCE (let's call her Employee A) entered the 401(k) on 01/01/2017.  Employee A did not have 2 years in 2017 and thus is not eligible for the PS. 

    Another NHCE (Employee B) entered the 401(k) on 07/01/17.  Employee B also did not have 2 years in 2017 and thus is not eligible for the PS.

    My understanding is Employee A is required to get the gateway, with the 3% SH QNEC counting towards that.

    Employee B only gets a safe harbor of 3% of comp. from 7/1 to 12/31, so he also has to get a top heavy for the whole year (his safe harbor on his half-year of comp. counts towards the top-heavy).  The 3% safe harbor plus the top-heavy satisfy B's gateway requirement.

    The question is whether I include either or both of Employee A and B in the numerator or denominator, or both, when doing the rate group testing.   In other words, when I test the rate groups, how do I treat Employee A and B?  Are they totally excluded because they are not eligible for the PS? 

     

     

     


    401k Overcontribution Correction

    Doghouse
    By Doghouse,

    I have a situation I'm hoping to get some suggestions on. I have a participant who received an erroneous large commission payment in 2017 which was repaid in 2018. 401k deferrals were taken from the erroneous payment, and the amount was such that it caused the participant to reach his 2017 402(g) limit, so no 401k deferrals were taken for the rest of the year. 

    Reversing the deferral contribution results in him NOT exceeding the 402(g) limit. In correcting this situation, I assume the company has an obligation to make up what his 401k contributions would have been for the rest of the year? Do you agree that this will be at least at a 50% rate plus match and earnings? Of course he is an HCE - fortunately it shouldn't change the testing results appreciably.


    Which retirement plans are affected by undoing the investment-advice fiduciary rule?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    I’m hoping BenefitsLink people will help me crowdsource some background for a research project.

     

    The research project assumes that, whether on May 7 or by some later date, a court issues a mandate to vacate the 2016 investment-advice fiduciary rule.  The first of the questions is:  which plan-sponsor fiduciaries are affected by that result?

     

    If one follows the rulemaking’s 2015-2016 reasoning, it is small plans that more need to be protected from communications by those who, but for applying the to-be-vacated 2016 rule, might not be held to fiduciary standards of loyalty and care.

     

    But how small is small?

     

    In recent years, I’ve seen plans smaller than the Labor department’s $50 million dividing line use registered investment advisers who sign contracts expressly accepting status and responsibility as an ERISA fiduciary.

     

    In your experience, what size sorts plans between those unlikely to use a fiduciary adviser and those likely to use a fiduciary adviser?

     


    Def'n of beneficiary and spousal waiver - in ERISA?

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    Here's a sad tale for today...

    A participant died last week, and the plan administrator called to review her beneficiary form with me - it lists her two sons as the co-beneficiaries.  "Oh," he said, "was her husband supposed to sign off on this somewhere?"

    Uh-oh.

    I explained how, without that signature (notarized), her balance goes to her husband (who is husband #2, not the father of the children - not clear if he was married to her when she was hired or not, or when we suggested they update the beneficiaries with each restatement... not that that matters at this point).  Now there are quite a few unhappy people.  I've got basic plan document language that explains how a beneficiary is determined, of course, but one of the lawyers wants proof "under law", whatever that means.

    I thought that this would be defined in ERISA somewhere, but I don't see it.  The best I can find is 29 USC S.1002 (8) in "Definitions": 
     

    Quote

    (8) The term “beneficiary” means a person designated by a participant, or by the terms of an employee benefit plan, who is or may become entitled to a benefit thereunder.
    ...

    <<the hyperlinked "beneficiary" links back to it's own definition>> - AC


    But that's not very helpful.  Any suggestions?  I don't want to rack up [too much] more billable time to my client because of a bunch of pushy lawyers... Thanks.


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